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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernhard View Post
    Jihadism is just a word that refers to modern political movements centered around the goal of waging jihad. No need to be a smartass about that.

    Perhaps you could try answering the two questions I posed instead of, again, saying things that do not concern the discussion at hand.

    Or just go back to your original two statements...

    - Cultural Marxism isn't Marxism.
    - Cultural Marxism was created by the CIA.

    ... and acknowledge that they were nonsense.
    I acknowledge that CM was ot literall created by the CIA. Just the US made it their own, and without the US it would be nothing. I still maintain, it is contrary to Marxism and was pushed upon the US public, and then the word, for such a reason.

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    Well, at least now we're getting somewhere.
    Still, in what concrete way is it contrary to Marxism? Its emancipatory goals are not really in line with liberalism (in the economic sense) even though it resonates with a liberal society in which individualism makes society accepting for everything that breaks down traditional structures. And would you say the ideas of the Frankfurt school of thought and Gramsci are not marxist then? The idea put forward in 'The Authoritarian Personality' resembles the classical Soviet conception of fascism quite well.

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    If issues need to be talked about then Political Correctness needs to be thrown out. I find it mind boggling that issues cannot be dealt with because people are over sensitive. As for Feminism, well today's Feminism is a beast. Traditional Feminism I have no problem with though I feel it's obsolete. Overall the battle is between Honesty VS Sensitive/Taboo Topics. Also pardon me if I sound odd. It's almost 1AM here. Very tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verðandi View Post
    The West would have to be conquered first. Gramsci posited that because Christianity had been dominant in the West for over 2000 years, not only was it fused with Western civilization, but it had corrupted the working class. The West would have to be de-Christianized, said Gramsci, by means of a “long march through the culture.” Additionally, a new proletariat must be created. In his “Prison Notebooks,” he suggested that the new proletariat be comprised of many criminals, women, and racial minorities.


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    That sounds a bit Gramscian, but it sounds even more like Frankfurt School.

    I'd agree that Christianity, but also Hellenic philosophy, Stoicism and Germanic thinking have permeated Western thought for centuries. This certainly has trickled down into the lower classes of society, which identify with their higher-ups and try to emulate them.

    But Gramsci didn't seem too concerned with Christianity, although he must have been aware of the role of the Catholic Church within Italian society. In fact I think he did realize the way they're working is actually quite "Gramscian":
    - The Catholic Church has a core of intellectuals working in monasteries and on seminaries.
    - The Catholic Church has priests, trained by their core intellectuals, in any community of a country. Those function as organic intellectuals.
    - Catholic orders try to get their hands on public education, in fact they are very active in it.
    - The Catholic Church uses symbols, icon, stories, narratives to influence public culture.

    I'm sure I could go on. Catholic intellectuals certainly understood the role of culture in politics. I also recall that a lot of conflict between Church and State in the 19th century surrounded this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    Cultural Marxism is in certain regards fundamentally different from original Marxism
    No, it is not.

    The sole & only difference between "original", "proper" Marxism and so-called "Cultural Marxism: is, that Marx originally was asking for the total, complete expropriation of each and anybody, of each and anything. This included, according to Marx, most prominently and most importantly the total, complete abolition of inheritance law, and law of succession.

    Whereas Cultural Marxism does not ask anymore -- or in fact never did -- for a complete expropriation and a total ban of property.

    Because a thorough implementation of Marx' ideas would, if taken seriously and carried out strictly, include the expropriation of each and every jew, also. And this, of course, is not what the jews are dreaming of.

    What could Mr Soros do, and what a clown would he be, if he was expropriated?

    Mr Rothshilt certainly would qualify any mere attempt to the abolition of inheritance law and law of succession as "nonsense".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roderic View Post
    Cultural Marxism, also known as Political Correctness, is an ideology and a strategy used to socially engineer the society through the subversion of culture.

    Political Correctness and Multiculturalism are tools used today to undermine and destroy western culture in order then to replace it with a radically different one based on collectivist lines.

    These techniques are broadly based on the teachings of the Frankfurt School, first based in Frankfurt, Germany, and then spread to New York and in the rest of the world. The Soviets, communists and socialists worldwide used these techniques in order to undermine the culture and the institutions of western nations and so bring them under their control.

    Political Corectness is not a phenomenon that should be underestimated. It is the root of all evil and is destroying slowly our societies and civilization.
    Valdas Anelauskas is a professor at the University of Oregon. He as a Lithuanian and grew up in the former Soviet Union.
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    I won't dispute any of this, but CULTURAL MARXISM is NOT our CAUSE. It's a movement that works AGAINST our cause.
    Our cause is the preservation of Germanic Societies and Communities and to maintain a way of life suitable for Germanic people.

    By making the "fight against Cultural Marxism" the center of our cause, we already have fallen into a defensive reactionary position Cultural Marxists are actually trained to manage and deal with. It's an important side issue, but not our center.

    On that side issue:
    https://archive.org/details/CultureOfCritiqueExplained

    But decide what you are fighting FOR first and what you are actually defending.

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