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    Question Is Mediterranean Blood a Foreign Component in the Germanic World?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatest View Post
    Also known as 90% of the European population in North America that does not have Italian ancestry.
    Anyway Mediterranean blood is a foreign component and shouldn't even be considered White in the United States. What's the point of ''White Preservation'', if we all end up looking like Jason Biggs and Ray Romano?

    Census has never been accurate.
    They claim in my city (that is 50% European; therefore I've doubled the statistic) is 20% Eastern European and 16% Southern European. The problem being, I rarely run into people who have Slavic or Mediterranean surnames.
    Statistics most of the time are pure bull
    I think that Celtic plus Germanic is the most common, followed by Slavic (Polish, Czech etc.) plus Germanic (very common in the Midwest) and then Mediterranean plus Germanic.

    As for Mediterranean folks, southern Euro males can be pretty fugly (e.g. Romano or Biggs) but more often than not, they can find northern Euro females willing to overlook that.

    And I don't think I could find a northern Euro male who would would want to kick these two women out of their country (or their bed).

    Maria Menounos

    Marisa Tomei


    By the way, if Mediterraneans aren't white, then Greek philosophy and literature, and Roman architecture and engineering* (in other words, the foundations of Western culture) are the product of non-white people.

    *I don't think there is any strong evidence that the Greeks or Romans were Nordic, no matter what that goofball Kemp might claim. Greek and Roman writers actually mentioned the Nordic phenotypes of Celts, Germans, and Scythians; I doubt they would have mentioned this if their own people were physically indistinguishable on average from northern Europeans.
    The Nordicist case may be stronger for the Mycenaean aristocracy and the Roman patricians. Greek philosophy, art and literature, however, were the products of the classical polis rather than the hill-forts of the Mycenaean chiefs. And the Romans got much of their culture from the Etruscans, who were at least partly of Near Eastern origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    Maria Menounos

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    I am not sure what you are trying to prove with pictures of ordinary looking Mediterranean women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatest View Post
    I am not sure what you are trying to prove with pictures of ordinary looking Mediterranean women.
    If women like Tomei or Menounos are "ordinary" where you live, I would like to move there.
    I was trying to make the point that southern Europeans aren't just a bunch of ugly bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    Greek and Roman writers actually mentioned the Nordic phenotypes of Celts, Germans, and Scythians; I doubt they would have mentioned this if their own people were physically indistinguishable on average from northern Europeans.
    This was already after their degeneration and their mixture with the likes of Phoenicians, Etruscans etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    And the Romans got much of their culture from the Etruscans, who were at least partly of Near Eastern origin.
    Yeah, the degenerate part, which eventually brought them down.

    Cmp. http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=111169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    If women like Tomei or Menounos are "ordinary" where you live, I would like to move there.
    I was trying to make the point that southern Europeans aren't just a bunch of ugly bastards.
    These women look like Mulattos to me, exactly what the Mediterraneans are, after centuries of mixing with Asians, Semites and Africans.
    And I wouldn't consider those women to be good looking, let alone Germanic (makes me wonder why you are posting here. Stormfront seems more in your alley. Go promote your miscegenation over there)

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    I cannot say I have ever heard of someone putting Mediterraneans, Asians, Semites, and Africans in the same ethnic category before. I should rather think they are all different.

    NOT to mention, many things that have been considered Volkisch by actual Germans (and by such I mean native) had roots in classical Greece and Rome. Seldom have I heard criticism or even direct discrimination of race between the two. I've even heard of the Mediterraneans being considered Aryan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatest View Post
    These women look like Mulattos to me, exactly what the Mediterraneans are, after centuries of mixing with Asians, Semites and Africans.
    And I wouldn't consider those women to be good looking, let alone Germanic (makes me wonder why you are posting here. Stormfront seems more in your alley. Go promote your miscegenation over there)
    Of course they aren't Germanic. Last time I checked, Greek and Italian are not Germanic languages.
    "Germanic" is only a subset of European (which includes Slavic, Celtic, Baltic, Finnish, Hellenic and Romance languages and cultures). I don't believe that pride in Germanic heritage requires one to talk trash about non-Germanic Europeans.
    Saying that Mediterranean people are "Mulattos" is even more ridiculous than calling Finns and Russians "Mongols" because many of them have some distant Asian ancestry (as shown by Y-haplogroup N).
    It is true that Greeks and Italians on average have more ancestry from the Near East than northern Europeans, because they are geographically closer to that part of the world. Most of that ancestry goes back to prehistoric times (the Neolithic expansion) well before the Greek and Roman civilizations. There is NO evidence of recent or significant sub-Saharan African ancestry in Greece or Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    And I don't think I could find a northern Euro male who would would want to kick these two women out of their country (or their bed).

    Maria Menounos

    Marisa Tomei
    I would kick them out. Not being German is argument enough, they belong neither in a German's country nor in a German's bed. Maria Menounos looks like she has Negro influence and Marisa Tomei is fugly like most celebrities. Take away their makeup and you could find prettier girls in the local cafes.



    American celebrities disgust me and I'd treat them as any prostitute off the street. They probably slept with as many men to get where they are today. I don't want STDs, thanks very much. So not to worry, you can have them. Both at the same time if you want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    And I don't think I could find a northern Euro male who would would want to kick these two women out of their country (or their bed).

    Maria Menounos

    Marisa Tomei
    What's so special about them-they appear to have showered recently? They aren't attractive to me



    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    Greek philosophy and literature, and Roman architecture and engineering* (in other words, the foundations of Western culture)
    Most of that stuff vanished during the 'dark ages'. Modern western society developed in the middle ages in Britain and northern Europe, going on to invent such things as the printing press, steam engine, automobile, flight, jet engine & rockets, computers/internet.


    Quote Originally Posted by Rhobot View Post
    *I don't think there is any strong evidence that the Greeks or Romans were Nordic, no matter what that goofball Kemp might claim. Greek and Roman writers actually mentioned the Nordic phenotypes of Celts, Germans, and Scythians; I doubt they would have mentioned this if their own people were physically indistinguishable on average from northern Europeans.
    The Nordicist case may be stronger for the Mycenaean aristocracy and the Roman patricians. Greek philosophy, art and literature, however, were the products of the classical polis rather than the hill-forts of the Mycenaean chiefs. And the Romans got much of their culture from the Etruscans, who were at least partly of Near Eastern origin.
    That seems at least a bit contradictory-if the nobles of those societies were nordic-then perhaps they are the one who produced such inventions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by triedandtru View Post
    I cannot say I have ever heard of someone putting Mediterraneans, Asians, Semites, and Africans in the same ethnic category before. I should rather think they are all different.
    They are all different, however, they are also all in a category called non-Germanics

    Quote Originally Posted by triedandtru View Post
    NOT to mention, many things that have been considered Volkisch by actual Germans (and by such I mean native) had roots in classical Greece and Rome. Seldom have I heard criticism or even direct discrimination of race between the two. I've even heard of the Mediterraneans being considered Aryan.
    Well, if we talk about race, the Mediteranid race has its merits, and is certainly one of the stronger races of Europe, thus a certain admixture within our Volk is certainly nothing to be worried about.

    A good contemporary Mediteranid example of a female is Natalie Imbruglia:



    However, culturally, Mediterraneans represent mostly the Roman cultural circle, and are thus not Germanic, no matter how Aryan
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