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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    I can easily deduct.
    With logical fallacies.

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    We have no account of any inter-Germanic marriages forbidden based on hair and eye color.
    Which doesn't mean that this wasn't the case.

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    We have an account of Nordic looking Romans (and Greeks and others) but no laws stipulating that it was permitted to marry Nordic looking Romans.
    It still could be both, cultural and racial reasons.

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    There were. Some Visigoths for example. I haven't it handy, but once I find it I'm going to post an engraving. They didn't embody the fair Nordic ideal.
    I am curious how you can deduce the amount of dark pigmented people from that. So I am looking forward to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuid-Vlaming View Post
    What about the existence of the germanic surname Bruno meaning brown, brown-haired. If Germanics had a name meaning "brown(haired)" which they gave to individuals of their own kind, it must be that brown hair existed among them.
    So? Brown can still be light hair, I wouldn't doubt that brown hair existed among ancient Germanics, the lighter shades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    I agree. A Nordic Spaniard:

    Quite right, alot of individuals have this black and white simplistic thinking when it comes to racial subgroups. They think Northern Europe = Nordics and Southern Europe = Mediterraneans, off coarse the sub racial nature of Europe is much more complex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    Mixing with a Spaniard or Italian would be another story. I'd prefer not to because of their differing culture, language and lifestyle.
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    If you don't identify with being Spanish, then that's all the better.
    I see where you are coming from now, I had the wrong impression of you and it's true I do not identify with being Spanish whatsoever. My cultural identity and loyalty is 100% Germanic! People here at Skadi do not have to worry about my identity and loyalty to the Germanic Preservation Movement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    PS. If you have a thick skin then no comments should bother you.
    Oh but you hurt my feelings. (just kidding) But seriously I normally have a thick skin but I am not some emotionless robot either. I can be quite passionate and caring about my loved ones and my desire to preserve the Germanic peoples. I was kind of in a bad mood when I made that post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    My my, this Christina Stuermer is quite an attractive fraulein! Her boyfriend or husband is one lucky guy.

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    I can easily deduct. We know that Germanic-Roman marriages were forbidden, so we have an account of that. We have no account of any inter-Germanic marriages forbidden based on hair and eye color. We have an account of Nordic looking Romans (and Greeks and others) but no laws stipulating that it was permitted to marry Nordic looking Romans.
    Theodoric the Great's banning of marriage with Romans I believe had more to do with culture and religion than anything else. The cultural differences between Germanics and Romans were obvious. I think religion also played a large factor as well. People in this time period took their religion very seriously in who they associated with and bred with. Most Germanic Christians at this time were Arian and most Roman Christians were Trinitarian. The Germanic Arian Christians saw the Roman Trinitarians as idolaters and Theodoric the Great was naturally advising his people not to associate closely with them culturally or spiritually which had a segregation effect. I serious doubt it was done out of genes or sub racial selection.

    I don't think all Germanic people in the Ancient or Early Middle Ages were perfect nordic specimens to begin with, there had to have been some sub racial variety among Germanic peoples, the presence of darker brunettes was not so far fetched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    However, culturally, Mediterraneans represent mostly the Roman cultural circle, and are thus not Germanic, no matter how Aryan
    I can agree with that. They are Aryan but not Germanic. Well put. : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    This was already after their degeneration and their mixture with the likes of Phoenicians, Etruscans etc.
    the roman republic came into exictance after the fusion of latin romans and etruscans as far as I know...
    Yeah, the degenerate part, which eventually brought them down.
    and how do we know that ????

    Cmp. http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=111169

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    Quote Originally Posted by goidelicwarrior View Post
    read history correct! the roman republic came into exictance after the fusion of latin romans and etruscans, after their merger...
    So? The Roman republic was the first step in the wrong direction.

    Quote Originally Posted by goidelicwarrior View Post
    Yeah, the degenerate part, which eventually brought them down.
    and how do you know that ????
    Follow the link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    Also the achievements of nordids

    Greece:
    http://www.white-history.com/hwr10.htm

    http://www.white-history.com/hwr11.htm

    Rome:
    http://www.white-history.com/hwr12.htm

    http://www.white-history.com/hwr13.htm



    It does mean that they share mutual ancestors with Spaniards and Italians. The stereotypical 'grease-monkey' Spaniards and Italians that is, not whatever descendants of the Lombards and celtic Galicians reside in those countries today.

    A guy who was in my D&D group for years claimed that there was a group of Kurds who had moved to Austria/Germany at some time in the past, and that Hitler was a descendant of these and this explained his anti-semitism. I looked but didn't find any source on the internet which talked about this. However, if this is true, this would well the presence of 'darker' people in Germany/Austria.

    Whether this is true or not, 'Mediterraneans' are descended from either the southern periphery of Europe or outside of it, and thus are racially alien to any Germanic country.
    im in part descendent of Galicians, wich means a subracial mix of old europeans(basques, celts and Germanic Scwabians ( like the pic of a galician) but after traveling a lot down there I wouldent say either physical appearance or behavior is consistent with " greasy monkey " of course some mixed people are. but not the vast majority are still Celtiiberians, sadly globalism are diluting all white or european nations..
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    Hitler was not a Kurd and that is a poor explanation for his antisemitism.
    The reason for Hitler's antisemitism was the First World War. I can't believe how idiotic people can be at times.
    Hitler had spent a week in a coma and woke up with gas burns. Someone told him what happened and of course he went berserk. To him, Germany had been winning the war, after all Germany had defeated and secured huge tracts of land in Eastern Europe, bested Belgium and was holding the trenches in France.


    The only foreign ancestry known to Hitler was Czech. Although this is something he did not brag about and even went to some lengths to cover. And that was through the maternal Grandfather line. So much for the claims of Alois (paternal) for being a Jew. The Hiedler family had been of Czech origin and migrated to Germany in the 17C. That's over two centuries of intermarrying with Germans.
    That means Hitler's ''Czech'' Grandfather was no more than 15% ethnic Czech, likewise his mother being 7.5% and Hitler no more than 3.5222--% Czech.

    Which part of the finger nail is that? If most people could track back that far they might find something they might not like. There is speculation in my family that some of the Scottish line might include French and Welsh.
    It's a fact that Hitler wasn't an exception in that regard. It has always been common in Europe to be living in countries and having surnames that weren't related to the ethnic region.

    It's similar to the Polish General ''Rommel'' who was "of German descent", served in the Polish Army and was probably less than 10% German.
    Just like there were two ''Poles" named Lewinski-Manstein and Blasowitz, but they were not Polish Generals, but ethnic Germans who commanded armies in the Wehrmacht.

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    I don't consider many Mediterraneans white. And don't compare Germans with brown hair and brown eyes with greasy swarthy Sicilians. There is no comparison. The differences between Penelope Cruz and Christina Stürmer are miles apart. Besides Mediterraneans have African genes and they cluster with Jews and Middle Easterners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    I don't consider many Mediterraneans white. And don't compare Germans with brown hair and brown eyes with greasy swarthy Sicilians. There is no comparison. The differences between Penelope Cruz and Christina Stürmer are miles apart. Besides Mediterraneans have African genes and they cluster with Jews and Middle Easterners.
    This was not a swarthy Sicilian.



    I think you better examine the masterminds(Die Juden) of Communism before you criticize the Italian race and yes, under fascism that became a new term for the Italian people.

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