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    Post Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: The Art of Chivalry: What Every Guy Should Know

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack
    On a side note: the core of medieval chivalry was one of service and absolute obedience to your Lord, not 'treating a woman well'. 'Chivalry' was interchangable with 'fidelity'. Fidelity in the sense of semper fi.
    That's a good point, its core fundamental was obedience. This idea of obedience is opposite of founding America, breaking from our "lords" to establish freedom and prosperity for ourselves.

    Having a code of honor is a good thing, but difficult to uphold all the time because this world is full of liars, deceivers, and manipulators. Don't let people take advantage of you, neither in business nor in personal affairs.

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    Post AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: The Art of Chivalry: What Every Guy Should Know

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack
    That's a nice way of saying I have a lacking mindset Frans I know what you're saying. I just think the thing who wrote the article above is a utopian fool ("When it comes to dating, women want men to treat them like ladies: They want to feel adored, they want to be romanced.", "Women remember the little things, and this is definitely something she'll file away","You'll be sending the signal that she's worth it, which she hopefully is."). All these things do is leave a man open to be pussy-whipped and exploited to the full. Especially the stuff under 'allow me'.
    This is actually pretty close to the reality.

    Who know - maybe the older women have a different set of values. But I don't know about that, given the girls of my generation had to learn it from somewhere.
    Yeah, I've always asked myself the same question. Ultimately, it's not that insignificant, because it could serve as a comparative example of how malleabe the human character is (i.e. a nature(instinct) vs. nurture issue).
    "slavic" languages are absolutely arteficial (Read "slawenlegende"). The "glagolica", invented by a bunch of monks, is nothing but an ancient esperanto, creating new words, definitions and alphabet out of regional slangs.

    The craddle of European Civilization comes from the North. All blond people originate from the north. So if you see a blond-blue eyed Slovene, Russian, Czech, Polak ect., you can be 100% sure that his ancient ancestors originated from "Germanics" (Germanic = Nordic).
    "slovenja" was the settelment of the Langobards = Germanics/Teutons. "Poland" of the Goths and East-Vandals ect. ect. What do "slavs" tell us about their origin?
    Some silly story that they originate from some swamps in the east and popped out of no where into history.

    So you see my dear "Gorostan" [=Triglav], you are in reality a "Germanic" indoctrinated with panslav propaganda and historic fantasy stories. ~Dr. Brandt, former TNP and Skadi member

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    Post Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: The Art of Chivalry: What Every Guy Should Know

    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    Giving something in order to demand something in return is not fair by any stretch of the imagination.
    LOL You must get ripped off all the time in business. I want you to do work for me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    Heh, that's another subject , and notice how it still comes back to the woman's needs. Anyway, that is a drop in the bucket in comparison to how men are programmed.

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    Post AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: The Art of Chivalry: What Every Guy Should Know

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordhammer
    LOL You must get ripped off all the time in business. I want you to do work for me!


    Relationships don't exactly work like a business. You know, it's not like you have to deal with those people in case you don't like them. Manners cost nothing, and that is the point. If people don't respect them, you simply don't deal with them. About 5% of all people still might and those are the ones you stick with.

    Heh, that's another subject , and notice how it still comes back to the woman's needs. Anyway, that is a drop in the bucket in comparison to how men are programmed.
    I basically don't give a flying monkey about much of that. If a woman wants to enjoy the company of a strong, good-looking, intelligent, well-mannered, empathic, etc. young man (i.e. myself), she'd better do her utmost to not incur my displeasure, otherwise she can get lost, as there are plenty more where she came from (even if there weren't I wouldn't care, and I've acted so many times). The same goes for "friends".
    "slavic" languages are absolutely arteficial (Read "slawenlegende"). The "glagolica", invented by a bunch of monks, is nothing but an ancient esperanto, creating new words, definitions and alphabet out of regional slangs.

    The craddle of European Civilization comes from the North. All blond people originate from the north. So if you see a blond-blue eyed Slovene, Russian, Czech, Polak ect., you can be 100% sure that his ancient ancestors originated from "Germanics" (Germanic = Nordic).
    "slovenja" was the settelment of the Langobards = Germanics/Teutons. "Poland" of the Goths and East-Vandals ect. ect. What do "slavs" tell us about their origin?
    Some silly story that they originate from some swamps in the east and popped out of no where into history.

    So you see my dear "Gorostan" [=Triglav], you are in reality a "Germanic" indoctrinated with panslav propaganda and historic fantasy stories. ~Dr. Brandt, former TNP and Skadi member

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    Post Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: The Art of Chivalry: What Every Guy Should Know

    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    Relationships don't exactly work like a business.
    Unfortunately not, as one person usually gets the bad end of the deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    You know, it's not like you have to deal with those people in case you don't like them. Manners cost nothing, and that is the point. If people don't respect them, you simply don't deal with them. About 5% of all people still might and those are the ones you stick with.
    Simple manners wasn't the topic.

    Obviously you do value reciprocity, despite your claim one should do things without wanting anything in return, and that wanting something in return is somehow unfair, when it absolutely isn't.

    A mutual relationship is the whole point of being in one, otherwise you're just taking on a burden with more work and expense for yourself (I've been there many times). I don't expect 50/50, that would be unrealistic to ask of women, but I do expect some form of reciprocation. Otherwise, as you noted, you should move on to someone who acts more like a friend and partner than an unappreciative, selfish princess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    I basically don't give a flying monkey about much of that. If a woman wants to enjoy the company of a strong, good-looking, intelligent, well-mannered, empathic, etc. young man (i.e. myself), she'd better do her utmost to not incur my displeasure, otherwise she can get lost, as there are plenty more where she came from (even if there weren't I wouldn't care, and I've acted so many times). The same goes for "friends".
    You deserve better than what you've been getting.

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    Post Re: The Art of Chivalry: What Every Guy Should Know

    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    The Art of Chivalry:
    What Every Guy Should Know


    by Miss Love


    Flower Power

    Women love flowers. You've never met one who doesn't, and you never will. The ten bucks you spend on a bouquet will score you an infinite amount of points.
    Ha. Not True.

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    Post Re: The Art of Chivalry: What Every Guy Should Know

    Quote Originally Posted by Phill
    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    The Art of Chivalry:
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    by Miss Love

    Flower Power

    Women love flowers. You've never met one who doesn't, and you never will. The ten bucks you spend on a bouquet will score you an infinite amount of points.
    Ha. Not True.
    Maybe the author assumes you're already in a relationship with the girl or that you and she share a mutual attraction for one another. It's basically pointless to do anything for a girl unless she wants you already. If she doesn't want you everything you do is a waste of time and won't change anything. If she does want you then you really don't have to do any of these things anyway, except as a way to put her in a good mood.

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    Post Re: The Art of Chivalry: What Every Guy Should Know

    For some persons this article could be named "The art of stalking".

    I agree with Nordhammer, chivalry only works where there is already some attraction.

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    Post Re: The Art of Chivalry: What Every Guy Should Know

    in a way it is true that the woman refers to small particulars of well doing of guy, a small dissafection of a rough way to do takes big pain to woman.

    I thought not but for my bitter experience at least if in delay i realized that is true.

    we must be caring of particulars and give also small attentions but always giving.

    The problem is that some can be lazy for as i i'm.

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    Is Chivalry Outdated?

    In the past, if a man saw a girl or woman standing up on a bus, he would have give up his seat. If he saw her carrying lots of heavy groceries, he would immediately take them from her and put them in her car. Men would open doors, pull out chairs and always abide by the rule "ladies first."

    Those acts of kindness and many of the like are known as "chivalry," which is defined as the act of exercising or exhibiting any form of gallantry, courtliness, politeness, courtesy, good manners, or loyalty. It is when men hold doors open until the women walk through. Or be the last one on and off the elevators in favor of the women who are also there.

    Nowadays, many feel that such acts are not practiced as much as in the past, if at all, especially here at Florida A&M University. Many feel that it has gotten worse.

    "I've had guys slam doors in my face and not think twice about it," said Miranda Edwards, a fourth-year co-op business student from St. Petersburg.

    Some students said they feel chivalry starts from a young age and that parents do not stress it enough.

    They feel as if mothers and fathers should be able to teach their children these social courtesies because the father has dealt with women throughout his life and the mother knows how a woman should be treated.

    "This day in age, parents don't really teach it because parents are so young these days, they're probably still learning it themselves," said Jay Collins, a second-year business student from Philadelphia.

    Some students also feel parents are becoming less and less involved in their children's social development, and they rely on schools to teach children. Others said parents, more often than not, raise their daughters to be independent and that they don't need anything from the opposite sex.

    "Women these days are so independent that we don't really need it (chivalry)," said Sherika Tisby, a fourth-year English student from Jacksonville.

    Some women feel as if men know that chivalry goes well with the ladies and they do it just to make a good impression, not because it is the right thing to do. Many women feel chivalry should continue, no matter how old a man gets.

    Sometimes chivalry can be taken advantage of; some men at FAMU feel women take their chivalry for granted.

    Collins said men are unappreciated and do not get enough credit for going out of their way to open doors. And he is not the only one.

    "I opened a door for a group of girls the other day. None of them tried to grab the door so I wouldn't have to hold it anymore, and I got not one 'thank you'," said Aaron Drake, a second-year political science student from Philadelphia.

    Seward Hamilton, a psychology professor, said he feels that a thank you is not needed just to do something courteous for another human being, and that it all boils down to self respect and values.

    "If I didn't know better I would think that I was on a regular street corner rather than a University the way people conduct themselves here," Hamilton said.

    But it doesn't make a difference to most male students here.

    "If I feel like it, I might open a door for a girl but do not expect it," said Jared Owens, a second-year business student from Syracuse, N.Y.

    Some men do feel chivalry is very important and is still shown by many men on campus.

    "Chivalry has been missing from the black culture for some time now, and the black nation won't begin to get it back until they realize it's lost," said Roscoe McNealy, a math professor and associate department chairman.

    McNealy said he is shocked at how men these days don't make more of an effort to be more respectful.

    "I see a young, 70-pound ladies trying to carry big desk into my class because there are no seats and the guys just look at them do it."

    On the other hand, there are some women who feel that men do make efforts to open doors or to be conscious of it but are sometimes influenced by other men not to, for fear of looking soft or less of a man.

    Huberta Jackson-Lowman, a psychology professor, said she feels chivalry is shown occasionally and it's refreshing when she sees it.

    "The Women's Liberation Movement caused a lot of confusion in terms of chivalry," Jackson-Lowman said.

    "It's needed because of misogyny, and should be displayed by both sides."

    Many men and women said they feel the opposite sex should make more of an effort to show it and appreciate it because, though no one really needs it, they feel that it could "open the door" to chivalry for generations to come.

    Source:
    http://media.www.thefamuanonline.com...d-807674.shtml

    Whatcha think?
    Is chivalry outdated?
    Men, are you chivalrous towards the ladies?
    Ladies, do you find chivalry necessary, romantic or boring?
    Add anything else.

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