View Poll Results: Do you like kebabs?

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  • Yes, the ones produced and sold by immigrants.

    30 24.00%
  • Yes, but only the ones produced and sold by my countrymen.

    8 6.40%
  • Yes, but I boycott them nevertheless.

    19 15.20%
  • No.

    32 25.60%
  • I've never eaten a kebab.

    36 28.80%
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    Kebabs? Nope.
    Not really based on what they are as a food, but just because who are ones who makes those here .... dark immigrants. I don't trust hygienia etc. of those places.
    Not a huge surprise that health inspectors (who controls hygienia issues of all restaurants etc.) have taken exactly those places under their special control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Endgame View Post
    Fair enough.



    That's a noble goal, but at least a century too late. 19th and 20th century immigration forever changed American ethnicity and American self-identity from Anglo-Saxon to non-Anglo-Saxon.

    Most whites in the West (excluding Utah), Midwest, and North are either non-WASP or are ethnically mixed. Most whites in the South (excluding Cajun Country and excluding the millions of snowbirds) are Anglo-Saxon, but either don't know or don't care about their ethnic origins and would rather think of themselves as "Americans". Maybe you could try to form an Anglo-Saxon redoubt among that dwindling and apathetic population, but it's pretty unlikely.
    Sorry, but my in-laws are fans of BBC productions on PBS and they haven't any post-1776 infusion of British blood until I intermarried with their daughter. This is Bluegrass Kentucky I'm referring to. You frankly don't know what you're talking about. In any case, Americans are legit English without having to grovel for the acceptance of London high society. My kinsmen and in-laws here make their own Anglo-Saxon heritage, instead of importing everything. Of course, your rhetoric would claim Anglo-Saxons in Britain are not really Anglo-Saxons, because of Welsh and Scottish, even Irish cohabitation on the island. Therefore, you want me to disown my heritage from before Hengist and Horsa or before Drake and Raleigh, or both. I can be as nothing to you but some amorphous mass of DNA. Nice evaluation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    Sorry, but my in-laws are fans of BBC productions on PBS and they haven't any post-1776 infusion of British blood until I intermarried with their daughter. This is Bluegrass Kentucky I'm referring to. You frankly don't know what you're talking about.
    You should read my post before replying: "Most whites in the South (excluding Cajun Country and excluding the millions of snowbirds) are Anglo-Saxon . . .."

    Since I acknowledged that most Southerners are Anglo-Saxon, how does your anecdote of your Southern in-laws being disprove my claim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    In any case, Americans are legit English without having to grovel for the acceptance of London high society.
    You appear to be stuck in time-warp, circa 1830, before the huge waves of immigrants from all parts of Europe permanently changed the demographics of most of America. American Anglo-Saxonists decades ago talked about the changing demographics caused by pan-European immigration. Do you think all those foreign-tongued immigrants who filled the industrial cities of Victorian America just vanished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    My kinsmen and in-laws here make their own Anglo-Saxon heritage . . ..
    Be that as it may, it doesn't mean that the white population of America (consisting of > 150 million people) is Anglo-Saxon. The "I'm Anglo-Saxon, therefore Americans are Anglo-Saxon" reasoning that you are using is bad logic.

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    Therefore, you want me to disown my heritage from before Hengist and Horsa or before Drake and Raleigh, or both.
    No, I'm not asking you to disown your heritage. If you think I am, then you're not reading my posts correctly. I think it's great that you're proud of your Anglo-Saxon heritage. What I'm saying is that America is a lost land for Anglo-Saxons and it has been for quite some time. The demographics have changed drastically since America was Anglo-Saxon. How much Anglo-Saxon identity do you think you'll find in Italian New Jersey, or Polish Chicago, or the Finnish Upper Peninsula, or the Norwegian Dakotas, or the German farm belt?

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    Hey y'all, can we split this last debate into another thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Endgame View Post
    You should read my post before replying: "Most whites in the South (excluding Cajun Country and excluding the millions of snowbirds) are Anglo-Saxon . . .."

    Since I acknowledged that most Southerners are Anglo-Saxon, how does your anecdote of your Southern in-laws being disprove my claim?



    You appear to be stuck in time-warp, circa 1830, before the huge waves of immigrants from all parts of Europe permanently changed the demographics of most of America. American Anglo-Saxonists decades ago talked about the changing demographics caused by pan-European immigration. Do you think all those foreign-tongued immigrants who filled the industrial cities of Victorian America just vanished?



    Be that as it may, it doesn't mean that the white population of America (consisting of > 150 million people) is Anglo-Saxon. The "I'm Anglo-Saxon, therefore Americans are Anglo-Saxon" reasoning that you are using is bad logic.



    No, I'm not asking you to disown your heritage. If you think I am, then you're not reading my posts correctly. I think it's great that you're proud of your Anglo-Saxon heritage. What I'm saying is that America is a lost land for Anglo-Saxons and it has been for quite some time. The demographics have changed drastically since America was Anglo-Saxon. How much Anglo-Saxon identity do you think you'll find in Italian New Jersey, or Polish Chicago, or the Finnish Upper Peninsula, or the Norwegian Dakotas, or the German farm belt?
    Let the Germans and Britons abandon their countries first. Put your money where your mouth is! I prefer to assimilate into WASP identity those of German and Irish ancestry, not see them as eternal aliens, which they are not, as many have lamented losing those identities to Anglocentrism--with Wilson and FDR putting nails in their coffins. The Kennedy Army of Irish Papists has dissolved by irreligion, with your favorite outsider underdogs now Mohammedans like Obama instead. Italians can go live with Mexicans in Latin America and all be Fascist theocrats away from us, engaged in wars with the Muslims until the end of time. Blacks belong in their reparations, repatriation country Liberia. Marcus Garvey would approve. Self-immolation isn't my style. I don't enable malefactors like you, who speak more like Grima Wormtongue than Eomer. Wait...Whites are a minority on Earth. How may we leave the Planet of the Apes behind and move to Mars instead? You've got some great logic yourself. "Make America Great Again" means nothing to you, because the White House went Black and we'll "never go back"? I suppose you prefer Russia and the White Savior Putin. Har-har!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    Let the Germans and Britons abandon their countries first. Put your money where your mouth is! I prefer to assimilate into WASP identity those of German and Irish ancestry . . ..
    The actual situation is the opposite of what you hope for: WASPs have been assimilated by the Germans and Irish, et al. If you would travel throughout the United States, you would see that plain fact. Most white Americans whose roots are north of the Mason-Dixon Line are neither Anglo-Saxon nor Protestant. German and Irish ancestry is dominant there, as well as Roman Catholicism. Additionally, there are millions of central, southern, and eastern Europeans in that region, especially in the big cities and in the several states that constitute "Megalopolis". There are few there who identify as Anglo-Saxon and even fewer who are relatively unmixed Anglo-Saxons.

    So, as I said at the beginning, your goal is noble, but hopelessly outdated. There are, however, a considerable number of Anglo-Saxons in the South (and also in parts of the mountain West), but most are indifferent to or ignorant of their Anglo-Saxon roots. Maybe you could try to rekindle Anglo-Saxonism in those places. I doubt much will come of it, though.

    I think the crux of this issue if that you're angry that I've called out your fantasy as a fantasy. You're angry at the messenger and assuming that my message is the result of hostility towards Anglo-Saxonism rather than just acceptance of reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    I suppose you prefer Russia and the White Savior Putin.
    You would be a better debater if you would stay on topic. Putin has nothing to do with what we are talking about and I haven't even given a hint as to my opinion of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Endgame View Post
    The actual situation is the opposite of what you hope for: WASPs have been assimilated by the Germans and Irish, et al. If you would travel throughout the United States, you would see that plain fact. Most white Americans whose roots are north of the Mason-Dixon Line are neither Anglo-Saxon nor Protestant. German and Irish ancestry is dominant there, as well as Roman Catholicism. Additionally, there are millions of central, southern, and eastern Europeans in that region, especially in the big cities and in the several states that constitute "Megalopolis". There are few there who identify as Anglo-Saxon and even fewer who are relatively unmixed Anglo-Saxons.

    So, as I said at the beginning, your goal is noble, but hopelessly outdated. There are, however, a considerable number of Anglo-Saxons in the South (and also in parts of the mountain West), but most are indifferent to or ignorant of their Anglo-Saxon roots. Maybe you could try to rekindle Anglo-Saxonism in those places. I doubt much will come of it, though.

    I think the crux of this issue if that you're angry that I've called out your fantasy as a fantasy. You're angry at the messenger and assuming that my message is the result of hostility towards Anglo-Saxonism rather than just acceptance of reality.



    You would be a better debater if you would stay on topic. Putin has nothing to do with what we are talking about and I haven't even given a hint as to my opinion of him.
    I happen to be connected to the areas of the country you identify as Anglocentric, yet this doesn't mean that I discount the potential of Anglo-German and Scotch-Irish as continuing Old World relations--no, not in the slightest. If you're such a British imperialist, then you know about White Man's Burden and the quest to turn Brown Indians into Englishmen. That's why the Lord Mayor is a Paki and Britain would rather ban Trump than him. You have your own blinders on...

    Your phraseology of "Anglo-Saxonist" and "Anglo-Saxonism" is alien among British and American folks. I'm doubting you belong to either group now. This whole situation with your trolling of "Les Anglo-Saxons" feels more like a European set-up to harass me for my Anglophilia and Europhobia. This explains Chlodovech tag-teaming with you and trying to get me banned when others can't take what they dish out. Every rule thrown at me has been violated by those in conflict with me, only the powers that be have a mission to ensure Anglocentric bias is not equally acceptable on Skadi as any hate-mongering swill of an Anglophobic bent. This is historiographical triumphalism and the forum is decidedly on the sides of the Bonapartes and Hitler against my shopkeeper folk.

    You're constantly derailing with your own preferred tangents, yet I don't play into your hands so well. I'm hardly overawed at your Marxist diatribes.

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    Kebabs? No thanks. There are scores of kebab 'restaurants' in my neighbourhood and I avoid them. I find kebab itself to be vile, and even the salads at these establishments are nauseating; who wants to eat rubbery feta cheese with iceberg lettuce? Very unappetizing, in my opinion!
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    I had never had kebab until last year. Believe it or not, I've managed to avoid eating kebab in France. I had kebab for the first time in Stockholm last year and didn't like it at all. I couldn't finish it. I was told by Turks and MENAs from TA that I'm "too white" (they were teasing me because I couldn't enjoy that delicacy) to appreciate it and that I didn't have the real deal, that what I had in Sweden was a döner kebab and the real deal is when it's real meat on a stick. But I don't feel like giving it a try.

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    I used to love doner kebabs and went to the kebab shop near me in Leicester 2/3 times a week

    Mind you, the fat Turkish bloke who carved the meat off the spit had greasy hair and always wore a string vest that showed his hairy chest and sweaty armpits. I used to avoid watching him too closely.

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