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    Drugs and Propaganda

    The outlawing of drugs is another instance of a profane and extremely ignorant government arbitrarily deciding laws that are to be enforced equally on all regardless of individual qualities. So much nonsense has been said about drugs and alcohol by pseudo-religious and state-worshipping zealots over just the past century; before this time such things were considered perfectly safe and normal, as they have been for thousands of years. At first the assaults came from modern Christians who believe rather absurdly that direct spiritual experiences should not be allowed until after the death of the person. They believe that sex, drugs, and alcohol, because they make one feel good, are sinful and therefore must be banned, taxed, or treated as taboo. We do not find anything of the kind except in Islam where alcohol is forbidden to fallen man since wine represents salvation, but even here wine is not prohibited in Sufism or to those who have effectively attained the primordial state.

    Today, the propaganda is directed by the psychiatric institutions which classifies everything in terms of their pseudo-science. Drugs and alcohol are claimed to cause psychosis, panic attacks, memory loss, and haulucinations, yet these infrequent symptoms disappear when off of the drug, and therefore one cannot say that there is any nerve and brain damage with normal responsible use. Moreover, a vision and state of ecstasy, especially that produced by a sacred rite, must never be confused with an haulicination, nor should fear be identified with paranoia and panic attacks, which is to say that what is involved here is not an issue of mental disorder. If such symptoms like fear, temporary memory loss, disorientation of the senses, and extra-sensory perceptions were a valid reason to outlaw drugs then so should alcohol and sacred rites be outlawed. It is a fact that the same so-called symptoms are present in many meditations as is a heightened state of ecstasy, and this is because such things exist potentially in the being. Sacred rites were always referred to as trials, for not everyone can overcome vices or the fear and mental strain of the void; if so, we would all be enlightened. But to ban such a thing due to ignorance is tantamount to banning God.

    Furthermore, every day someone dies from alcohol abuse, whereas no one has ever died from marijuana use, except perhaps indirectly, be it from cancer, which can also be caused by a number of other factors, including pollution, toxic consumer products, radiation, and smoking. If we were to ban everything that contained potential risk then nothing in the manifested world would be legal. We should not be so concerned as to meddle in everyone‘s lives; it is not our duty as men to save everyone from potential dangers.

    What is absolutely appaling is that profane governments spend billions in expenses on the war on drugs, on propaganda, and on arresting, prosecuting, and imprisoning people who have done nothing more than produced, used, or sold drugs, which the corrupt and tyrannical government disapproves of, but which most likely uses in private.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exit View Post
    Drugs and alcohol are claimed to cause psychosis, panic attacks, memory loss, and haulucinations, yet these infrequent symptoms disappear when off of the drug, and therefore one cannot say that there is any nerve and brain damage with normal responsible use.

    Take from a person who has witnessed the toll of drugs firsthand. Drugs should be sectioned into the hardest band possible and cracked down upon with the ferocity you would a child molester.
    Stop trying to justify the use of drugs under some feeble political excuse and wake up to the realities of drugs.

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    The ban hasn't stopped this-it just makes it into a huge profit center for criminal gangs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishWitch View Post
    Take from a person who has witnessed the toll of drugs firsthand. Drugs should be sectioned into the hardest band possible and cracked down upon with the ferocity you would a child molester.
    Stop trying to justify the use of drugs under some feeble political excuse and wake up to the realities of drugs.
    Some people were destroyed by drugs. They were weak. Who cares? Many people weren't destroyed by drugs, so don't try to tell me that you know better the realities of drugs. I don't want my money spent on this stupid drug war, that is not my responsibility to save the feeble from themselves.

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    Can you give me one single logical reason why people would need drugs? I've lived without drugs and I am perfectly fine, thank you. If I can do it, so can everyone else.

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    A multicultural, multiethnic and socially liberal society will never be able to efficiently combat illegal drug use, the population is too diverse and home to too many conflicting value systems and groups (as well as to normlessness, identity problems and various other social ills), the border enforcement is too lax, the laws and punishments are too lax, the law enforcement doesnt have sufficient powers and authority, the parents lack authority and there is a general attitude of laissez faire spread throughout society.

    It would be foolish to think that a war on drugs could succeed to any extent in a society like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    The ban hasn't stopped this-it just makes it into a huge profit center for criminal gangs.
    Thats true thats all funding the big "war on drugs" has ever done, I don't approve of drug abuse...substances like that should only be used and allowed for appropriate medical reasons. Drugs that can't be used for this shouldn't be used for at all...that doesn't mean though that outlawing these types of drugs(heroin, crack...etc) is effective for getting rid of them. On the contrary it does the opposite of this, a much better and less wasteful drug policy would be not allowing drug abuse in inappropriate public places but allowing people who do want to get health problems/addiction/death to have it and use it in their own private residents.

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    A healthy society would totally forbid illegal drug usage. Communist China inherited 7 million drug users, Mao put a bullet in the head of every last one of them. They even left a mountain of drugs in a public square in Shanghai. No one dared touch it. In Islam also drug dealing carries the death penalty.
    Alcohol is completely different. When the White race differentiated from the Yellow, North of Afghanistan 30,000 years ago the Asians moved East and boiled water to purify it. Those that migrated West fermented it. Built in resistance to alcohol is therefore a European trait as is cutural usage.
    The main problem with illegal drugs is they kill the will to victory. It is a well known tactic of the Turks to ply geographical regions with drugs prior to conquest. A tactic the British used ( More precisely the Jewish Sasson dynasty used) in the opium wars to subjugate China.

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    I disagree totally.

    Its quite obvious you havent had much contact with the effects of drug use. Try burying a few close friends and maybe section (mental health) a few more and maybe you will change your mind.

    Nobody died through Marijuana but hey thats the stuff we gave the slaves to stop them revolting. The government loves a drug user, they sit around slagging off the problems in society without getting off their butt to do anything about it.

    Its about time we started setting a good example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forkbeard View Post
    A healthy society would totally forbid illegal drug usage. Communist China inherited 7 million drug users, Mao put a bullet in the head of every last one of them. They even left a mountain of drugs in a public square in Shanghai. No one dared touch it. In Islam also drug dealing carries the death penalty.
    I believe Communism and Islam are alien systems to Germanics. They are against the free Germanic nature. A society like that is sick and rotten, not healthy. We have nothing to learn from them, and everything to reject. Germanics are not people who like being opressed. Communism was not successful in the Germanic world. The only Communist regime was overthrown by the population who got sick of being treated like slaves. Islam was pushed out of Europe and the Muslims who managed to enter beyond the Gates of Vienna tortured and killed.

    Alcohol is completely different. When the White race differentiated from the Yellow, North of Afghanistan 30,000 years ago the Asians moved East and boiled water to purify it. Those that migrated West fermented it. Built in resistance to alcohol is therefore a European trait as is cutural usage.
    One, alcohol is a drug and it was once illegal too. It is not different from other drugs. Alcohol abuse has turned many Europeans into weaklings and victims.

    Two, alcohol is not more European than other drugs. I believe Europeans used and consumed natural drugs medicinally, culturally, ritually and hedonistically. I believe a bit of reading will enlighten you: The Sacred Plants of our Ancestors.

    I maintain my position in favour of Germanic freedom, including the freedom to use and abuse drugs.


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