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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoppoyz View Post
    They have their own accent I think. Germans should understand them though?
    Yes, their accent is called "Letzeburgisch". Germans can understand it.

    The problem with Luxembourg is its multiculturality. Parts speak French, parts speak German or Letzeburgisch, the foreigner rate is very high and they´ve an own identity as a small nation. Furthermore, they´re die-hard EU freaks.

    The current foreigner rate is at 44,5%! 16,5% of the population of Luxembourg are Portugese, followed by 5,8% French, 4,1% Italians and 3,5% Belgians. It´s expected that foreigners will be in the majority around 2015. Exactly how the EU wants to see all of its nations in the future...multicultural and mixed.

    Under these circumstances I´d refrain from adding it to a German Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie View Post
    Yes, their accent is called "Letzeburgisch". Germans can understand it.

    The problem with Luxembourg is its multiculturality. Parts speak French, parts speak German or Letzeburgisch, the foreigner rate is very high and they´ve an own identity as a small nation. Furthermore, they´re die-hard EU freaks.

    The current foreigner rate is at 44,5%! 16,5% of the population of Luxembourg are Portugese, followed by 5,8% French, 4,1% Italians and 3,5% Belgians. It´s expected that foreigners will be in the majority around 2015. Exactly how the EU wants to see all of its nations in the future...multicultural and mixed.

    Under these circumstances I´d refrain from adding it to a German Union.
    You may spell their accent correct. I didn't know how to spell it but I know it wasn't in Swedish spelling. It is called "luxemburgiska". I knew that Luxembourg had some immigrants but not so much.

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    So you wouldn't accept the country into a German Union.

    However, would you accept and assimilate Luxembourgish immigrants into the German Union, provided they were sufficiently German?

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    Obviously Germans would allow Germans to move to Germany.

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    Luxembourg would essentially deserve to be a part of a German Union, however under the current situation it represents more of a "case lost". As Valky outlined, the non-Germans are long in the majority, this would prove difficult.

    However, if we aspire to at some point in the future get Silesia, Pomerania or Prussia back, it'd be a shame and incorrect to categorically exclude Luxembourg on that account. But yes, alas, it's a long way to go till we have any gain by getting it back.

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    Well it is just a city-state, and a rich one (like all that still exist).
    Well, I must correct you there: It's not actually a city-state. It is rather a state spanning over 2586 square kilometres (more than 40 times the size of San Marino, more than 15 times the size of Liechtenstein, more than 6 times the size of Andorra even) with about 400,000-500,000 inhabitants (been a while since I checked the statistic).

    Small state, yes. City-state, no. There's only two city-states in Europe, that being Monaco and the Vatican. Just because Luxembourg, San Marino and Andorra have capitals with identical names, doesn't mean it's the only municipality.
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    The Germans don´t understand the Luxemburgian dialect very well.
    In cause we have so many dialects that we don´t understand.
    Swiss-Deutsch,saxonian,frankonian are some very hard dialects to understand.

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    Question Are the Luxembourgers German/Germanic?

    What ethnic group do they belong to? Does such a small country have its own ethnicity? Or are they basically Germans, French, or possibly Belgians?


    The reason being is because I had a teacher who was half-German, and half-Luxembourg who claimed to be of full blooded German descent, self identifying with a fully German background by categorizing Luxembourgs with Germans because Luxembourgs were basically German people since it's such a small country and has no distinct ethnic group. Maybe it's a stabilized blended subgroup descended from German and/or French populations, or maybe most Luxembourgers are altered by mixture of both populations.

    Any thoughts?

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    I doubt they have any more French admixture than other bordering groups, such as the Alsatians.


    Their language is a dialect of German.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moselle_Franconian
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    They're certainly Germanic. It's only an accident of history that they're not part of Germany. What is now Luxemburg was a major part of the Holy Roman Empire, and the House of Luxemburg was actually the ruling dynasty for about a century.

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    Thanks for posting this, wallflower. I've been wondering about this myself.

    My Luxembourgian ancestors identified as Germans from what I know, but whenever I hear about Luxembourg it's always about how they are a mix between the Germanic and Latin worlds. Whether they are talking about race, culture, or simply location is often left unsaid, so I've been fairly confused about this subject.

    Being 1/8th Luxembourgian, I'd also appreciate some discussion about the racial makeup of the Luxembourgers from those who are knowledgeable.

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