View Poll Results: Which party system do you believe in?

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  • Single-party

    30 35.71%
  • Dominant-party

    6 7.14%
  • Two-party

    3 3.57%
  • Multi-party

    14 16.67%
  • Non-partisan

    19 22.62%
  • Other (Please explain your belief)

    12 14.29%
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Thread: Which Party System Do You Believe In?

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    There is no modern political party worth supporting. I would rather support a basic authoritarian government, one which doesn't even recognize concepts as a "party"
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    Authoritarianism, as I see it, goes hand in hand with meritocracy, since it is hierarchical and meritocracy works through hierarchies. It is a system that allows the best in their fields to run respected branches of power, while the hierarchical order keeps the system together and everyone knows their place and responsibilities.

    And take a look at the main opposition to authoritarianism - democracy, be it direct or representative. Direct democracy is impossible unless every person in a society is an expert in ALL fields that touch society as a whole and it's various groups and individuals specifically, so that includes economics, sociology, jurisprudence, psychology, history, politics in general and so on and so forth. Direct democracy is impossible unless all people are polymaths. That is actually one of the key goals of communism, as it is a direct democracy, so the infamous new breed of man that Marx referred to was a polymath that could successfully exist and prosper under such a system, hence where the Party as the Vanguard of the people concept comes from - a group that inspires people to be like them, to become polymaths. If you introduce direct democracy on a national scale (the smaller the group of people the easier it is to maintain a direct democracy full of idiots and average people as opposed to polymaths) you will get ochlocracy and an eventual fractionation of society and everyone fighting for their own little groups, so a society will eventually fall into anarchy.

    And take representative democracy. It supposedly allows everyone a voice but in reality it, as any system, will want to preserve itself as it is, so in actuality nothing really changes. And if such a representative democracy, that does allow real drastic change, exists, it is soon enough turned into a different system altogether (how Hitler came to power). At best representative democracies allow political parties to "play with power" for a little while, due some minor legislations and laws and etc that don't change the grand scheme of the system, because it is not interested in such. And if you think about it, why would the parties want to change anything unless they are dedicated to some ideal? They will be happy with switching places so long as they can pretend to have power. Corneliu Zelea Codreanu also said something in this regard:

    "... divided into parties, which rule for a year, two or three, it is incapable of conceiving and realizing long-time plans. One party will nullify the plans and work of another. That which was started and erected today by some, tomorrow will be destroyed by others. In a country, where construction is required, at this historical moment it is not a benefit of democracy - it is a danger, which changes ownership, each year coming with new plans, changing that, which was done by one and undertaking other goals, which also will be broken by those who come tomorrow."

    The basic and strongest advantages of authoritarianism is that it provides unity through vision, order through hierarchy, a professional elite through meritocracy and clarity through all of those combined. Would one rather live in a system where he knows damn well what he can achieve and what the ultimate goal is, or in a system that just jogs in place in virtually all aspects that matter? The only reason people choose the latter is because it allows people to be lazy slobs, to lead a hedonist lifestyle and it provides distractions to make people feel good (entertainment, personal luxuries and such) in a system that achieves nothing, other than making sure that it keeps on working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Jupiter View Post
    Or, you know, we could get rid of the whole bullshit concept of partisan politics.

    You seem to think that petty modern dictatorships, like those of the one-party states of the past century or so, are representative of a non-partisan unified State, when in fact they are nothing but a crude mockery.
    By getting rid of partisan politics, wouldn't we not be creating a single party system?

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    I'd like to see the party system done away with- and instead let each individual run based solely upon his own views.
    That is only conceivable in a existence of anarchy.

    And a few other things....
    1) Campaign financing halted to bare minimum.
    That will never happen considering with whatever system you have the wealthy will always be affluent to some degree.


    2) I'd like to see more multi-hour long debates between candidates about high level economics, finance, government, laws, foreign policy and goals for the future. (the debates we have on TV today are childish ridiculousness)
    Most people are idiots so this will never happen either because the reason they make it basic instead of more indepth in political discussions is in order to make it more consumable for larger audiences who don't know any better in what they are being presented with.

    3) We also need a group to catalog clearly and concisely the different views of each candidate on a website, and media debates recorded and posted online for all to easily see.
    They already do this on youtube.

    Politics should be based upon ideas not upon personal looks, image or cheap catch phrases.
    Agreed it's just that again most people are too stupid to understand what is being put in front of them which is one of the reasons why the democratic concept is ineffective because it assumes the majority of people will be reasonable in their voting choices or political perceptions.

    While that could work that way, or it could also work this way:

    " One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them ..."
    Poetic but I don't see how Tolkien has anything to do with this subject.


    I think the better idea would be have multiple parties that are all pro Germanic race and culture, meaning get rid of the racial others and their influences. You need a system of checks and balances.
    The more parties you have the more slower things are resolved to the point of being stalled in political theater and debate.

    With more parties also comes the opportunity of even more infiltration by opposition forces who wish do a nation harm kinda like all those liberal political parties in the United States.

    [Or with all those new political parties being formed by foreigners who are starting to make the new voting block in the democratic process when it concerns multiple parties.]

    I say make it impossible for opposition to even exist in the first place by getting rid of multiple parties altogether.

    As another user said here already one voice equals one direction.

    One voice also equals one prime directive and objective for a nation too.

    With all of this I believe a government revolving around command control to be the most efficient one.

    The only problem with this is the ability in finding competent leaders to lead the single party system.

    In order to fix that problem every chairman of the single party system should be chosen by a select level of qualifications, background, and intelligence limiting any chance of dictorial misuse in the hands of a party panel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlaricLachlan View Post
    By getting rid of partisan politics, wouldn't we not be creating a single party system?
    A single party system is inherently partisan. While there may only be one ruling ideology, it got into that position by coming out on top in political battles.
    This is not a legitimate way of determining who rules and who doesn't, thus invalidating the entire system.

    The difference between a partisan system and a non-partisan system is the difference between a pack of feral dogs and a pack of wolves.

    I would suggest reading Evola's Men Among the Ruins to get a clearer idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Jupiter View Post
    A single party system is inherently partisan. While there may only be one ruling ideology, it got into that position by coming out on top in political battles.
    This is not a legitimate way of determining who rules and who doesn't, thus invalidating the entire system.

    The difference between a partisan system and a non-partisan system is the difference between a pack of feral dogs and a pack of wolves.
    That's pretty much true, look at the intra-party fights which we still have. The Chinese Communist Party for another, had big changes when Deng got control after Mao, probably some people got executed along the way, to say nothing of the periodic purges of executions of rivals in the USSR and Communist China. Even the NSDAP had this, with Hitler purging the SA 'brownshirts' and the Strasser faction.
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    1 or 5 works for me. I don't see a reason for a political party in a NS state.

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    multiple party system so discussion can be formed and people can have opinions other than single party systems that are normally led by a centralized government that creates the minds of the people rather than allowing them to chose there own minds.

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    I voted for the Single-Party system, but I mean NSDAP only! It is not a typical party, it is much more a Movement for unity and prosperity of the folk, the commandments of this movement are the foundation for a strong and healthy society!

    A true revolution in the thinking and the mind of the masses could be achieved only by a Single-Party NS system! Of course it needs many years to complete this process, minimum one generation. Unfortunately the Third Reich had only 12 years, and only 6 years of peace. Nevertheless the achievements of the NS State were without analogue! Now we could only dream for such society and state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugen Hadamovsky View Post
    I voted for the Single-Party system, but I mean NSDAP only! It is not a typical party, it is much more a Movement for unity and prosperity of the folk, the commandments of this movement are the foundation for a strong and healthy society!

    A true revolution in the thinking and the mind of the masses could be achieved only by a Single-Party NS system! Of course it needs many years to complete this process, minimum one generation. Unfortunately the Third Reich had only 12 years, and only 6 years of peace. Nevertheless the achievements of the NS State were without analogue! Now we could only dream for such society and state.
    I completely agree and sympathize with you. If another NS-Revolution happens in the future, I hope to be a part of that. It would be perhaps the most beautiful thing to happen to Germany in a very long time. It would be the re-birth of Germany.

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    I would have to say that the US needs more than the two political parties they have now, even though the Libertarian, Green and Constitution parties do exist the ballot access laws make it hard for them to run candidates against the two big parties.

    I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 just because I did not like Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.

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