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    Post Re: Evolutionary Psychology: Male Mate Preferences

    I think one of the issues with more intelligent people breeding is that they're just harder to please. They want a longterm mate of high quality, so they often have fewer children or none at all because of this strictness. Whereas average people find mates of their status and intelligence much more often and are more easily pleased.

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    Post Re: Evolutionary Psychology: Male Mate Preferences

    I think this is a good point about the flaw of computer composites, median being most attractive:

    However, in combining individual faces to make composites, symmetry is increased and facial blemishes are reduced. Grammer & Thornhill (1994) argued that males would prefer symmetrical female faces because such symmetry could only be produced in healthy individuals able to resist genetic and environmental disturbances. They created composite male and female faces and asked males and females to judge them for attractiveness, sexiness, health and dominance. The female composite faces were judged as being more attractive and sexy than the individual photos and this was due to their reduced asymmetry.

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    Post Re: Evolutionary Psychology: Male Mate Preferences

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    Post Re: Evolutionary Psychology: Male Mate Preferences

    Quote Originally Posted by Nordhammer
    I think one of the issues with more intelligent people breeding is that they're just harder to please. They want a longterm mate of high quality, so they often have fewer children or none at all because of this strictness. Whereas average people find mates of their status and intelligence much more often and are more easily pleased.
    You are right for our today totally degenerated Western society but not for all times.

    Furthermore I would formulate it different: They have often such high and totally unrealistic demands which can be never fullfilled on the long run which must lead to problems in the partnership.

    It is not by chance that a hedomatic character especially of the upper class is dominating their free time and even certain sorts of sexual behavious (bisexual, sadomaso etc. practices)

    Partnerships are for them today not there for the future, for their lines, their community etc. but just for fun.
    So if the fun (the time of first amorousness) is over and reality is coming (just look at the fucking and by god and me cursed series "Sex and the city" which promotes such lifestyle and "values") they have soon enough.

    People like that have too high demands for their partners but not for themselves. For themselves they have just demands for their job but in nothing else in their whole life what is of course the main problem because much of their work is useless or even contraproductive on the long run whereas their behavious in the group, as social subjects, for their collective and family is an absolute catastrophy.

    It is flattering to say they "search for high quality" because even they find it they are not satisfied and dont make compromises.
    Probably their next partner (must be) is worse, but hey...we live in a free and liberal society which is hedonistic-materialistic and high demands, quality and strict moral exists just in the economic system which is destroying our societies and planet...

    To educate girls/women and boys/men that way is not mistake but the trial to make perfect slaves to plutocracy, perfect producers and consumers out of the best parts of our group.

    To give them more values than for their job would just mean to burden them and to decrease their effectiveness in the current system.

    They are burnt and destroyed like the forest of Ireland, Spain and Dalmatia. To use them for the moment, for maximum profit and a stabilized (by the "American way of life", by hedomatic lifestyle and substitution) society for the plutocracy.

    Do they masterminds think about the future of our groups? Of course not.
    Do this people do? Most not and thats the result of their reeducation.

    Maybe they think about it, but they dont do anything, at least not what they should do, namely to get a family first.
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    Post Re: Evolutionary Psychology: Male Mate Preferences

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa
    You are right for our today totally degenerated Western society but not for all times.

    Furthermore I would formulate it different: They have often such high and totally unrealistic demands which can be never fullfilled on the long run which must lead to problems in the partnership.

    It is not by chance that a hedomatic character especially of the upper class is dominating their free time and even certain sorts of sexual behavious (bisexual, sadomaso etc. practices)

    Partnerships are for them today not there for the future, for their lines, their community etc. but just for fun.
    I agree with you. Some men and women have perhaps unrealistic expectations. It's even to the point now where a woman will prefer to have a child on her own by invitro without a male partner. It's better than not having any children at all, but it's sad in a way that we are that individualistic and uncompromising. Jodie Foster, a blond, blue-eyed Nordish woman who is reported to have an IQ around 160 is an example. She had a child by invitro. At least she had her own child and the child is non-Jewish white, right?

    Short-term partners are a different matter. As in my other thread, females prefer men who are more attractive or have some kind of erotic appeal without regard to long-term qualities. This is where racemixing usually occurs with white women. When they are younger and more apt to indulge in hedonism, they sully themselves with black or nonwhite men... whereas it would occur much less if they were judging them for long-term partners. A long-term relationship between a black male and white female is very rare. Although this doesn't solve the problem with white men and Asian women. So especially in our current multiracial environment, I'm against this individualistic and hedonistic idea of short-term partners.

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    Post Re: Evolutionary Psychology: Male Mate Preferences

    For me one thing I know that the Hispanics and Italian-Americans (the traditional ones) are right about is the primacy of Family. In the USA this takes the form of a Christian religious stance, but it is really a stance for traditional values.

    Agrippa, can you say more about how Marxism-Liberalism promotes this kind of destruction of the family? I am interested in all sides of this problem.

    I agree completely with what Agrippa says on this thread. Family comes first. America has become a society with no heart and soul because the material shell of existence, in other words bare subsistence coupled with trite consumer recreation, has taken precendence over basic internal values. Our society is extremely superficial and "cheap."

    Even the way Americans eat is cheap and trite: hastily-prepared and consumed food, not really enjoyed or savored or prepared with love. Recreational sex for a few quick orgasms and puppy love, then on to the next partner for more of the same.

    And Agrippa's point about work is well-made. What job really contributes so much to society, more than bringing a new life into the world? Even a heart surgeon does less than one good mother, in my opinion.
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    Post Re: Evolutionary Psychology: Male Mate Preferences

    Could you post what the female mate preferences are?

    I don't see intelligence being the female preferene, rather physical size and strength.

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    Post Re: Evolutionary Psychology: Male Mate Preferences

    There's no future in wishful thinking and complaining about women,
    it's much better to learn more about them and to try finding how to meet their preferences.

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    Post Re: Evolutionary Psychology: Male Mate Preferences

    Agrippa, can you say more about how Marxism-Liberalism promotes this kind of destruction of the family? I am interested in all sides of this problem.
    Well, I wrote longer articles including that issues in German, but I think you cant read German dont you?

    Its not that easy in English but I will try to explain it in short.

    First the liberal position is clear - Capitalism comes first - individual life concepts are made for such kind of society.

    There could be other ways to cope with Capitalism, but this is the liberal one...

    Family and ethnic bounaries are just things which burden "the free individual in the free market" and are therefore a contradiction for people which want to be "successful" in this system.

    Both Marxism and Liberalism promote some sort of radical egalitarism - there are no (inherited-genetic) differences, especially not if its about the value of individuals.

    The only value they have is a materialistic one - as much as they "produce", if they are disciplined members in the process of production and in the economy.

    If you dont make any further distinction, kinship and individual genetic features are not important. Therefore children have no value than as "workers and as fun-makers" for the parents.
    You can get workers from outside whereas women which have to raise more children arent in the production process involved as much as wished.

    They say both, Marxists and Liberals, that women and men are basically the same and the differences are "culture made", just social constructs which should be deconstructed and promote, because of the value system of work-production and out-of-house working employer-employee relationships just one model for that: Women must do the same things as men and fit in the male value system - they must be soldiers, construction worker, politicians etc...

    To fit in this they must not just accept this (male) new value system but dismiss the old one!

    So even if there are enough workers but not enough children, for ideological reasons, for the concept of universal life concepts for all humans, no matter which sex, race and individual features they have, a male oriented life concept and "value system" msut be promoted for women.

    Because it is already established and there is no status in this society than by a job and earning money.
    Therefore if you are a radical egalitarian and have such unrealistic concept of humans you must educate the women in a way so they can get a similar status.

    You must destroy or at least question old values and life concepts because Marxism-Social Constructivism says that all old value systems which distinguished people (including "male-female") are social constructs to oppress and exploit people.

    Liberals adopted such a view early too but fully agreed with it in the cold war in which they wanted to be "more egalitarian and liberal/free" than the Communists.

    But once they adopted such a view family and traditional values for women must be questioned seriously.
    Such things were seen as "oppression" and the only way to "free the women" is that they adopt male value systems. This is especially widespread in the educated liberal or neomarxistic upper class and in schools which are oriented on them.

    What does intelligent women think? They want status, status means to be free and to earn money as a member of the production circle.
    The conclusion is they dont just are career and materialistic oriented, no, they disregard women which still are traditional.

    They think they are "to stupid" and "still live in oppression" whereas they by about themselves say they are "free".

    In fact they are just slaves of the companies and system, but ok, not longer of the family and "their men".
    Is that more freedom? No, its just another hedomatic and liberal lifeconcept.
    Now, as it is established, the Neoliberals use it because they promote an universal value system for all humans and cant go a step back and because women are so involved in the new economy as cheap and willing workers (which undergo the male unions and working ethic of the old times) that they dont want to lose this ressource.

    But the main reason, the ideological background was Marxistic, the liberals just adopted this ideas for an universalistic concept of what is right and moral in the Cold War.
    As you can see Islam is strongly attacked because of his traditional view on women.

    The Neoliberals/Conservatives use old Marxist ideas for their economic and universalistic moral concepts.

    Without such egalitarian and materialistic ideas, the life concepts of "modern Western women" wouldnt be possible.
    This is combined with the fun society which is hedomatic oriented. To fight decadence another ideology would be needed than the liberal-egalitarian one but that is against the mainstream, the to-day rules and is not "profitable" for the Plutocracy.
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    Post Re: Evolutionary Psychology: Male Mate Preferences

    Quote Originally Posted by AWAR
    There's no future in wishful thinking and complaining about women,
    it's much better to learn more about them and to try finding how to meet their preferences.
    On a personal level I would usually agree, on a collective level the only solution is to change the preferences which they got from the ruling ideology and the liberal social structures.

    The fight against this structures is necessary and too much tolerance for women which act crazy and irrational is not acceptable because it leads to further destruction.

    Of course its necessary and good to know more about men and women to make a system which fit both and give both a life concept which they can accept and which is effective too.
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