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    I would say I feel the closest to American and Canadian Germanic people. But that being said, whenever I meet Germanic people from Europe whether they be English, German, Dutch, Scandinavian etc. I feel comfortable and experience a sense of familiarity. Looking at them and seeing their mannerisms and facial expressions reminds me of my family and relatives. Oh and I don't mind Australian Germanics either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vingolf View Post
    ...census enumerations compared with tribal enrollment data illustrate that a large proportion of those identifying as *Native American* in the census are not enrolled in Native American tribes, indicating the primacy of meta-tribal identity among Amerindians.

    According to Convention C169 self-identifiction as indigenous or "tribal" is the guiding principle:

    Self-identification as indigenous or tribal shall be regarded as a fundamental criterion for determining the groups to which the provisions of this Convention apply.
    I see the above definition of indigenous people as groups - probably derived from the law of nations - as problematically and conflicting with the basic individual rights granted by many constitutions.

    A paradigm shift from social definition (group) of identity to cultural interpretation (individual) is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashera View Post
    A paradigm shift from social definition (group) of identity to cultural interpretation (individual) is needed.
    This paradigm shift is almost completed within our new status as mass citizens of Roman-Western civilization. How would you improve on this spectacular destruction of our social identity and the resulting desolidarisation and isolation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashera View Post
    I see the above definition of indigenous people as groups - probably derived from the law of nations - as problematically and conflicting with the basic individual rights granted by many constitutions.
    I see this conflict as well and my solution is to downgrade individual rights and burn our constitutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauke Haien View Post
    I see this conflict as well and my solution is to downgrade individual rights and burn our constitutions.
    Our Constitutions and Human Rights Charters are not the problem, their interpretation is. 80-90% of the EC Treaty, at least 75% of the ECHR and probably about 95% of our Constitutions, Civil and Criminal Codes are sound enough and do not include unreasonably measures.

    However, 98% of all higher-instance judges, 99.7% of all legislators and 85-90% of all legal analysts and theorists are absolute crackpots with a knack for reforming society to their own wicked credentials, lending these provisions their devastating effect.

    Few provisions of the larger legal framework would need to be reworked, lest you are going to replace them with a new system altogether: Rather, much of their interpretation should not be so broadly constructed. Freedom of religion is one of the most fundamental points encapsulated, allowing us to freely be Heathens, Agnostics, Atheists, Protestants, Catholics ... but the wide and free application our jurisdiction lends it its devastating, folk-dissolving effect.

    Therefore, burn the idiots who interpret them, not the books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauke Haien View Post
    This paradigm shift is almost completed within our new status as mass citizens of Roman-Western civilization. How would you improve on this spectacular destruction of our social identity and the resulting desolidarisation and isolation?
    No, this is not what I implied. I mean an entropic bottom-up process and not an inertial top-down construction.

    "Social identity" is such a construction, a 19th century phantom, a definitory system of classification.

    What is solidarity then, beside some abstract indulgence behavior? This has nothing to do with respect for individual human dignity, or empathy at least.

    Even your above mentioned "isolation" - and now the increasing fractalization of cyber space - is a result of top-down constructions - functioning like pressing oranges.

    The only concept to put against it, is individuation.

    see this conflict as well and my solution is to downgrade individual rights and burn our constitutions.
    Just the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashera View Post
    What is solidarity then, beside some abstract indulgence behavior?
    In pre-modern society, it was nearly synonymous with kinship and personal loyalty; in modern societies it is based on patriotism, localism, and even internationalism, functioning as substitutes.

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    This has nothing to do with respect for individual human dignity, or empathy at least.
    Very true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashera View Post
    Even your above mentioned "isolation" - and now the increasing fractalization of cyber space - is a result of top-down constructions - functioning like pressing oranges.

    The only concept to put against it, is individuation.
    Individuals are tied into these constructions through individual rights as a primary principle of order, which enabled the creation of an anonymous mass in the first place. Individuation, including collective individuation, can only take place by returning meaning to these rights and making them dependent on a non-abstract social context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauke Haien View Post
    Individuals are tied into these constructions through individual rights as a primary principle of order, which enabled the creation of an anonymous mass in the first place. Individuation, including collective individuation, can only take place by returning meaning to these rights and making them dependent on a non-abstract social context.
    I do not think that individual rights are constructable by any objective order, because this would mean an allocation of claims. This directly leads to the formation of the anonymous mass, and the "individual rights" become means of atomization, isolation and fractalization, and as such meaningless.

    In the run of my argumentation individual rights are only thinkable and enforcable as "individual achievments", as evolutionary bottom-up processes. In principle this implies a pragmatic approach.

    The result of such processes should be conscious and free operating individuals. If they cognitive-logically unify - call it "non-abstract social" -. nothing speaks against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Our Constitutions and Human Rights Charters are not the problem, their interpretation is.
    No, they are exactly the problem. The very fact that they give room to such "interpretations" is enough to burn them.
    The Grundgeschwätz is utter crap, so are the human rights charters, they are a product of egalitarianism and other degenerate ideas of the French Devolution.

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    I do not think that individual rights are constructable by any objective order, because this would mean an allocation of claims. This directly leads to the formation of the anonymous mass, and the "individual rights" become means of atomization, isolation and fractalization, and as such meaningless.
    This is wishful thinking, law of nature has it that all rights are granted arbitrarily by the strongest power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashera View Post
    In the run of my argumentation individual rights are only thinkable and enforcable as "individual achievments", as evolutionary bottom-up processes. In principle this implies a pragmatic approach.
    How is this contradicting an "allocation of claims"?
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    This is wishful thinking, law of nature has it that all rights are granted arbitrarily by the strongest power.
    This is 19th century belief.

    A so-called "law of nature" - a static concept - is a fiction. Today we talk about rules in sciences, and these never were invariant, not even in "universal" perspective.

    And why should a gorilla lead a complex system at a highly developed scientific, technological and cultural level?

    Ashera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashera View Post
    A so-called "law of nature" - a static concept - is a fiction. Today we talk about rules in sciences, and these never were invariant, not even in "universal" perspective.
    So tell me, where does the weak rule over the strong?
    And what we talk about today, is not necessarily and advancement of what we talked about "yesterday", trying to argue with a time line seems fishy here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashera View Post
    And why should a gorilla lead a complex system at a highly developed scientific, technological and cultural level?
    Strength is not something to be reduced to a mere physical level.
    However, you still ask why, I don't know why in every case, I only know that the weak can not prevent the strong to rule. Prove me wrong if you can.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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