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    'UK Monarchy is Racist'

    The US is celebrating the inauguration of president-elect Barack Obama, the first black person to hold the title of American head of state. But as the race barrier to highest office is broken there, it remains firmly intact on this side of the Atlantic. For the foreseeable future, as in centuries past, no black or Asian person will be eligible to assume the role of British head of state. Under our constitutional system, the head of state is the monarch – at present Queen Elizabeth II. The position of monarch and head of state is inherited, lately through the Windsor family line. The Windsors are white and only their descendants are eligible to be king or queen; only their first-born can be the British head of state. This feudal system strikes me as totally out of step with the democratic, egalitarian and meritocratic ethos of modern Britain.

    Our head of state represents the nation and its people, and symbolises our values and culture. In a diverse multicultural society, surely it is wrong to automatically, a priori deny this honoured, revered role to our non-white citizens? The system of monarchy is, by default, racist. Although it was not devised with racist intent, racism is its effect nonetheless. Drawing on the analysis and conclusions of the MacPherson report, you could say that the current system of appointing our head of state is institutionally racist.

    Whichever way the defenders of royalty try to spin it, there is no escaping the fact that non-white people are excluded from holding the title of British head of state – at least for the foreseeable future.

    When the Queen dies, her role as head of state will pass to her first-born son, Charles. When he is dead, the head of state title will pass to his first-born son, William, and so on. From white person to white person to white person. No blacks need apply. The all-white Windsor family has the exclusive franchise on the office of head of state. One day, in generations and centuries to come, descendants of the Windsors might marry a non-white person and their first-born could become head of state. Might, could. No guarantee at all. In any case, why should we have to wait generations?

    The current monarchical system of determining our head of state is premised on the assumption that the most ignorant, stupid, immoral white Windsor first-born is more entitled to be our head of state than the best-informed, wisest and most moral black or Asian Briton. This is a truly repulsive racist assumption.
    http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=158440


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    It's kind of curious how quickly they shout wolf and how they can bother themselves with such an impertinent topic. Hel, why is she even ranting, the royal family's half German anyway. We're foreign, aren't we.

    Seriously - why should they care whether the Queen is white? Should not a Monarch, symbolic or not, be reasonably representative of its populace in a way? Blacks also make up, what? 2.5% of the population?

    But that's not to say that it couldn't technically happen that a Windsor ends up marrying a foreign racial, or at least one who is clearly alien to the culture. Touch wood that it doesn't! Liechtenstein has already shown us the horrors of having some African princess, thanks to Prince Maximilian, Prince Hans-Adam II.'s second son! Seriously, he technically has a royal duty not to!



    Whereever I might be at the time I see a person of African descent ascending to the Throne of the Unite Kingdom, or even any other European Monarchy --- I sincerely hope it's somewhere a good six-and-a-half foot beneath the ground.
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    Well, of course it's totally retarded to see antoher 'act of racism' in a monarchy. But it's true though, that a monarchy is not a meritocracy. I'm in favor of presidentialism.
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    White people begetting white people? What ever next?! How racist!

    I'm no fan of Monarchy, but it's hereditry (actually this is a Norman thing, the Anglo-saxons had a Witan of elders that could remove the monarch if they thought he/she wasn't up to the job)

    Like it or not the systyem's hereditry - what do they expect Wills to do? Dump Kate for a black girl?
    Come on then William, prove to us you're not racist

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    The multi-cultists will stop at nothing, not even attacking a native institution of England's government centuries old, the Crown. As the Crown is the representative of the British Constitution, of England herself, these racist bigots are attacking the very nation and people, at least from the perspective of this foreign observer from reading British history.
    The Crown should thus be representative of Britain and her native inhabitants inasmuch as possible.
    Perhaps even the American states would have remained a "dominion" of the Crown, of the eventual Commonwealth had George III's ministers and parliament been a bit more judicious in their fiscal policies and demands, allowed us our self-governance, like Canada and Australia eventually were.

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    It will never be enough.

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    I am irked by all this talk of Obama being America's first black president. Obama's half white and his ancestry is not typical of the average African-American. Black Americans came from West Africa, Obama's father was born in Kenya, East Africa. How many black Americans have ever been to Africa? How many have an african born parent? How many send their kids to private Quaker schools? When Jesse Jackson gets elected president (snowball's chance in Hell) then I'll be surprised. It's not like Obama grew up in the Chicago ghetto.

    43.5 White presidents, .5 Black (and even that isn't typical)

    He's not the "Black President", there's no "Black States of America."

    The Pan-African movement never really took off among America's "black community" now all of a sudden Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson want to include him as one of their own? Balderdash, besides many blacks disparage people of Caribbean or more recent continental African heritage..

    Obama's success was due in no small part by a conscious disassociation with clinging to a merely black identity.. Black people in America would do well to adopt standard American English a la Obama.

    If I were Obama I would set an example by refusing Kanye West or any other commercial money-grubbing rapper from performing at my inauguration. I would say "I will not allow modern-day blackface minstrels who exploit stereotypes of their own people to perform at my inauguration. It is an insult, a disgrace, and a vestige of uglier times perpetuated by sell-outs who champion selfishness, ignorance, belligerence, and every other manner of crudeness, and barbarism as if they were virtues. Oh and by the way, take those golden diamond-studded slave chains off your neck. You are a disgrace to humanity in general and to blacks in particular."
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    Britain - always the first to march to degeneracy!

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    I agree kick out those evil white Royals!
    By the way, I heard Queen Latifah needs a throne



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    Queen Latifah?

    So, here's a question: would the so-called Queen Latifah have five best-selling albums, or have made it to PEOPLE magazine's Most Beautiful list, or have been hired by CoverGirl cosmetics to promote their skin nostrums if she went by her real name Dana Elaine Owens?

    Or, would "women all over the country (still) resonate with her" if she went by her real name, such a white-sounding name as Dana Elaine Owens?

    Queen Latifah ... in the immortal words of Monty Python: "Stop that, that's silly!"

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