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    Post Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction

    Interesting website with some background material on this group, which now appears defunct?
    http://www.baader-meinhof.com/


    taken from-
    http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/raf.htm

    Red Army Faction (RAF)
    Description

    The small and disciplined RAF is the successor to the Baader-Meinhof Gang, which originated in the student protest movement in the 1960s. Ideology is an obscure mix of Marxism and Maoism; committed to armed struggle. Organized into hardcore cadres that carry out terrorist attacks and a network of supporters who provide logistic and propaganda support. Has survived despite numerous arrests of top leaders over the years.


    Activities

    Bombings, assassinations, kidnappings, and robberies. Targets German Government and private sector and US interests. Among the latter, attempted assassination in Belgium of NATO Commander (1979); bombing of NATO Air Force headquarters in Ramstein (1981); rocket attack of USAREUR Commander in Heidelberg (1981); and bombing of Rhein-Main Air Force Base (1985). In February 1991, the RAF fired approximately 250 assault rifle rounds at the US Embassy in Bonn, and in April the group assassinated the German Trust Agency director, Detlev Karsten Rohwedder.


    Strength

    Ten to 20, plus several hundred supporters.

    Location/Area of Operations

    Germany.

    External Aid

    Basically self-sustaining, but during Baader-Meinhof period received some support from Middle Eastern terrorist groups; some ties may still exist. The RAF received logistic support, sanctuary, and training from the German Democratic Republic during the early 1980s. The RAF appears to be developing closer ties to GRAPO in Spain.

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    Post Re: Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction

    Nice! The RAF was composed of true German nationalists.

    Constantin

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    Post Re: Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction

    The RAF were far from nationalists. Indeed when many of them fled to East Germany they hated it because it was "too German" there. Cant blame them really. After visiting Russia I often joke about how culturally the West is more Marxist than Russia ever was.

    I do love the one incident when they were training in Palestinian camps, they pissed off their hosts by continunally practicing nude sun bathing. The RAF also complained about the fact the Palestinians had seperate barracks for men and women. "Fucking and fighting are the same" as they tried to explain to their Palestinian hosts. Not suprisingly the Palestinians got fed up and booted their asses out. Shows you the big difference between Western leftists and their non-Western "comrades".

    Wheras non-Western leftists are often more nationalistic, the Western left is staunchly anti-nationalist. The Western left is mostly concerned with trival matters like sexual "liberation" and animal rights; while the non-western left focuses on more important matters, and in terms of sexual thinking are often more traditional. The family is the enemy to western leftists, to non-western leftists it's sacred(yes Soviet, Chinese, N. Korean, etc society is more family oriented than the post-60's West). I noticed much of this when my views were more neo-Stalinist/National Bolshevik in orientation.

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    Post Re: Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction

    What think you about Horst Mahler and his movement, he was too a member of Baader-Meinhoff.



    www.horst-mahler.de

    Is he an idealist and a fighter or a crazy with grossenwahnsinn?

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    Post Re: Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction

    Judging from recent developments I'd pick the latter classification.
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    Post Re: Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction

    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon
    Judging from recent developments I'd pick the latter classification.
    Please explain.

    Constantin

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    Post Re: Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction

    He has lost it and nowadays is grossly overestimating his influence.
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    Post Re: Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction

    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon
    He has lost it and nowadays is grossly overestimating his influence.
    How has he lost it? His arguments in court make a lot of sense. He is a brilliant theoretician. Also, he still speaks at various NPD functions. See here:

    http://www.nationalanarchismus.org/a...e/komitee.html

    Constantin

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    Post Re: Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction

    He is writing utter nonsense, ridiculous pseudo-Hegelian exegesis coupled with excessive delusions of grandeur. His "disciples" are even worse though. Cultists.
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    - Giacomo Leopardi (1798-1837)

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    Post Re: Baader-Meinhof/Red Army Faction

    Quote Originally Posted by Phlegethon
    He is writing utter nonsense, ridiculous pseudo-Hegelian exegesis coupled with excessive delusions of grandeur.
    For some people it is too complicated.

    Constantin

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