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    Well they do appear to have reasons besides their kids being named after the Fuhrer:
    A state appeals court ruled in 2010 that the children were put at risk of abuse and neglect based on a history of domestic violence in the home

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarneas View Post
    Well yeah, ideologically it sucks, but you have to look at things realistically: your setting up your kid for a pretty hard time if you saddle them with these recognizable names. Sure, the kid can change it, but do you not become attached to your name? Why give them the trouble?
    If giving your child a dumb/controversial name was grounds for having the child removed from the home then many celebrities would be in the same boat as the Campbells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fredericus Rex View Post
    Well they do appear to have reasons besides their kids being named after the Fuhrer:
    The kids were removed because of their names, New Jersey subsequently looked for reasons to justify the seizure of the children. As I pointed out no charges have ever been filed against Heath Campbell yet New Jersey supposedly has evidence that he committed domestic violence.

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    This is really interesting. I cannot believe that the children were apprehended due to "risk of abuse" social services here usually does not even look into cases unless there is actual proof of abuse. If the children are not involved in the DV then it does not matter. Bringing up personal beliefs of the family should have no bearing on what happens with the children. They should not be given back based on abuse, not personal heroes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ælfrun View Post
    This is really interesting. I cannot believe that the children were apprehended due to "risk of abuse" social services here usually does not even look into cases unless there is actual proof of abuse. If the children are not involved in the DV then it does not matter. Bringing up personal beliefs of the family should have no bearing on what happens with the children. They should not be given back based on abuse, not personal heroes.
    That's social services for ya. I've known people who have dealt with them personally, and they do often take kids away, and consequently, tear people's lives apart for no good reason. Yes, I said it.
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    I worked I'm social services so I know how many times that we've tried to apprehend actual abused children and it did not happen. I guess you are right that the severe cases go un noticed.
    All things must come to the soul from it's roots, from where it is planted. The that is beside the running water is fresher, and gives more fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Wellenkamp View Post
    There are a lot of Jews in NJ and NY area, with much political pull. I am sure they had something to do with it. They are harrassing the parents plain and simple.
    I think this really hits at the crux of the issue, New Jersey has got to have one of the highest populations of jews in the US (after New York and Florida I am guessing). Undoubtedly these poor people had the bad luck of having their case cross the desk of some high ranking jewish socialist and their fate was sealed. If this had occurred in virtually any other state I doubt this would have happened.

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    No doubt their names had been change!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    If giving your child a dumb/controversial name was grounds for having the child removed from the home then many celebrities would be in the same boat as the Campbells?


    Well, no its not the same scenario. Its not just about how dumb the name is, or how merely noticable it is. Its about how hated it is, and how hated the person it reminds you of is. If you want to burden your kid with a name that reminds everyone of someone they are taught to hate, then its actually worse than just calling them something stupid like what Britney Spears or whatever does. That might get them bullied for awhile but it wont actually do much damage to their self esteem or self concept in the long term. This is totally different.



    I'm not saying that its right to take the kid from their home because of a name. I'm just saying its unwise to burden the kid with a hated name just because of your own political views. Actually its selfish.

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    This is going to be unpopular but anyway,

    I do not believe that parents should be able to name their children anything they want. I do not believe that parents should be able to give girl's names to boys, and specifically boy's names to girls. Names like Robin or Morgan are ok. But no boys named Sue. And no girls named Stanley. That was Obamamamas name. I think she went to the dark side, literally, because she was never allowed to belong to the group because they always made fun of her name. She was always an outsider. She never had that warm feeling of being one of the group. So she didn't miss it when she wasn't anymore. Let that be a lesson to us all.

    I also would not allow parents to give their kids names like "Moon Unit".
    Life is hard enough and it is white trashy to give your kids names that are going to cause them to have to fight in the schoolyard every day of their childhood. If you want your sons to be warriors (commendable) then enroll them when they are three in some martial arts school. Or a military academy when they are six. Or both. You should want your son to be one of the elite, not a junkyard dog.

    In Bavaria and Austria, good catholic lands, it is common to give boys the middle name "Maria". Catholics tend to give their children names specific to a church holiday if they are born on it and Maria is better than "Himmelfahrt"("Assumption") or "Empfängnis"("Conception"), that being at least an actual name. It is accepted there. Or in Ireland where I know a guy named Padraic Moira (Patrick Mary) It would not be accepted in North America.

    We know WHY the cps took the children away from these parents. They would have had nothing against naming the kids Confucius or Mohammed, even the girls. But that does not alter the fact that the they gave their children names that are going to cause them much grief in this life. That is wrong. You do not own your children. You are only their guardians, entrusted by God or the gods or Natures god or whatever to bring them up to be valuable parts of the aryan community. Making their lives hell is not part of your job.
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    Heath Campbell, 40, a National Socialist from New Jersey, had his newborn daughter, named Eva Braun, taken away by child services.

    The Adolf Hitler-obsessed New Jersey man is up in arms because child welfare workers took away his baby girl — named after the Führer's mistress, Eva Braun — two days after she was born. “I’m not allowed to have children because I’m a Nazi,” Heath Campbell, 40, told the Daily News. “That’s what they’re saying. Well, I’ll stop making them when they stop taking them.”

    Campbell, an out-of-work National Socialist covered in swastika tattoos, first made headlines in 2008 when a supermarket refused to inscribe the name of his son, Adolf Hitler Campbell, on a birthday cake. He has now fathered a total of nine children with five different women but doesn’t have custody of any of them.

    Campbell’s latest furor was set in motion Nov. 11 when his girlfriend, Bethanie Zito, gave birth to little Eva Lynn Patricia Braun at a Pennsylvania hospital. The 22-year-old Zito was visiting relatives when she went into labor and ended up at Chambersburg Hospital. Zito, after delivering her daughter, said she spent two blissful days with the baby. But just as she was preparing to leave the hospital, nurses took the baby away and in walked workers from the Franklin County, Pa., Children and Youth Service.

    “I’m sorry. Your daughter is not coming back,” one of them said, according to Zito. “We’re taking her.”

    Zito, whose first child was also taken away from her by the state, flew into a rage.

    “I started screaming. I got hysterical,” she told The News. “I had just been checked out. I was breast-feeding my daughter for two days straight. I changed her. I had clothes on her.”

    Campbell was several miles away in his hometown of Milford, unable to come up with the cash needed to see his new daughter.

    “They kidnapped her,” said Campbell, who wore a full Third Reich uniform to a June court hearing while he was fighting to see a toddler son named Heinrich Hons. “Because I’m not going to mix with the opposite races and I’m not going to let my children mix, that gives them the right to steal my child?”

    But Zito’s court-appointed lawyer said Campbell’s demented views didn’t even come up during an early December custody hearing. Child welfare workers took the baby because Zito’s firstborn is also in state custody.

    “If there is an assumption the child is at risk, they can do that,” said lawyer Michael Connor.

    Zito said the case has been transferred to a court in Northampton County, Pa., which ordered her first child to be taken away. A court hearing is scheduled for Monday.
    (New York Daily News)

    The Hitler fan called his other kids Honzlynn Jeannie, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation and Heinrich Hons.

    The last name may ring a bell because it was the name of a leading figure in the Nazi party – Heinrich Himmler.
    Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/06/white-...#ixzz4G1RtjBUr

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