View Poll Results: How well will the BNP do in the June 2009 elections?

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    How Well Will the BNP Do in June 2009?

    I've been following the BNP for six months now and have been impressed by their progress, im confident they'll do well at the next elections but just how well is another question. In 2005 they gained only 0.7% of the national vote but like many nationalist parties across Europe have made significant gains since then mostly at Labour & UKIP's expense, so what do you guys think will they go to 2%, 4%, 6% or more.

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    Since General Elections still run on the First Past The Post system, it doesn't really matter how much their percentual gain is - it matters as to whether they can become the strongest party in a constituency by the next time a GE comes around.

    This is what for example Respect did to get their single MP. If I remember correctly, they only ever contested about 3 seats, and got voted in on one of them. Whilst it is important that the BNP be a presence in all parts of the country, it is also important that they concentrate their vote in a given constituency to have any say in Westminster in the first place.
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    I honestly believe that the BNP are going to attract a healthy percentage of the vote, despite the stigma attached to them. However, I don't necessarily trust the voting system so my answer is ambiguous. I think they stand a chance at getting more than 7% of the vote (mark my words - many will be secretly voting BNP this year), but whether this will be properly registered is a different matter - the BNP are the greatest threat to the comfortable, profitable political system the corrupt LibLabCon have nurtured over the decades. They'll do ANYTHING they can to prevent the BNP gaining ground.

    The thing with the BNP - and this is something I admire them for - is that they aren't a one-trick pony. They have some very sensible, healthy policies regarding the economy. People are waking up to the injustices of the financial system and as far as I can see, the only party offering a genuine solution to it are the BNP.
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    It is hard to believe they will make the necessary breakthru -- but the options are very limited!
    You know the limitations - anything up to 20% or more in smaller "crowded"/ swamped localities - together with some minor local election success ( the one London seat is the glaring exception - and yet!....) -- but otherwise , little national impact so far!

    Still, the debate does stir things up a bit. We shall see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cythraul View Post
    I honestly believe that the BNP are going to attract a healthy percentage of the vote, despite the stigma attached to them. However, I don't necessarily trust the voting system so my answer is ambiguous. I think they stand a chance at getting more than 7% of the vote (mark my words - many will be secretly voting BNP this year), but whether this will be properly registered is a different matter - the BNP are the greatest threat to the comfortable, profitable political system the corrupt LibLabCon have nurtured over the decades. They'll do ANYTHING they can to prevent the BNP gaining ground.

    The thing with the BNP - and this is something I admire them for - is that they aren't a one-trick pony. They have some very sensible, healthy policies regarding the economy. People are waking up to the injustices of the financial system and as far as I can see, the only party offering a genuine solution to it are the BNP.
    I think you're right! They DEFINITELY have the potential to poll over 10% in many European constituencies, and with PR that should see a few MEPs elected. However, as you say "it is not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes" to paraphrase Stalin.

    I think there may well be a HUGE smear campaign, and possibly the media will hype UKIP again. Otherwise we should do well.

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    The BNP will win control of Britain sooner or later, or it will become Islamic. Either way traitors and immigrants better pack their bags. It will take us about two years to reconquer our Empire and restore the balance of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forkbeard View Post
    The BNP will win control of Britain sooner or later, or it will become Islamic. Either way traitors and immigrants better pack their bags.
    I'm still a little confused by your perspective on Islam Forkbeard. Why would an Islamic State (like future Britain) expel immigrants, when a large portion of them are sons of Islam? I know you believe Islam would make us more ethno-conscious, but in every instance I've ever observed, a convert to Islam adopts a renewed sense of kinship - with all other Muslims, not with their own ethnic group. And you say traitors better pack their bags - would that include me, as someone who refuses to accept the new religion of Britain? Actually, if Britain fully adopted Islam I'd leave of my own accord.
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    Yes . I cant see an Islamic Britain expelling anyone really - certainly not Jews to the "holy" land!! More likely they would removed controls to muslim and coloured immigration - that is , such control that exist

    But I doubt if that will happen anyway; so it 'HELL' and madness as usual then !

    ..... make the most of it! If the TORIES do not push out Labour at the next general E , then Labour's destruction will continue unchecked....

    As for the coming EU Elections, with PR ? - - we shall see! National vote - below 4% with no breakthru....

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    I believe that the Conservative Party in Britain should not be thrown away, what must happen however is throw the liberals out, that poisoned the Conservative Party and get back to the party line before Thatcher... In concreto the Conservative Party should be conservative again.
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    A European seat is always possible for the BNP, if it receives 7-10% of the votes. Regional assemblies and council seats are also possible, and on quite a grand scale.

    But I think the example of the FPÖ in Austria and the distribution of votes shows that only proportional representation would probably do justice to a small party like the BNP. The FPÖ received 34 of 183 seats on the basis of 17.7% of the national vote. Now, if Austria had a First Past The Post system, I wonder how many seats they would have taken?!

    Winning party by state:


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    Winning party by administrative district (Bezirk):


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    See the trend? Apart from a few villages, where they polled the strongest, they became the second and third strongest party with 15-20% of the vote across the country. Under FPTP, they would have lost out badly.

    Therefore, unless the BNP take Barking & Dagenham indeed, I doubt particularly many MPs would be voted in on the basis of a General Election. Well, remains to be seen...
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