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    Man Kidnapped by ϟϟ as a Child Discovers His True Identity

    Man kidnapped by SS discovers true identity

    ......It was only with the opening of the world's biggest Holocaust archive at Bad Arolsen two years ago that Folker Hinecke was finally able to sift through the paper pieces of the jigsaw of his life


    A man kidnapped by SS soldiers as a child to be brought up as part of the Aryan 'master race' in Nazi Germany has discovered his true identity.

    Telegraph 07 Jan 2009

    Folker Heinecke, 68, spent 34 years researching his past before discovering that two soldiers came to his village in the Russian Crimea and kidnapped him under the German Lebensborn – Fount of Life – programme.

    The programme was masterminded by Heinrich Himmler, the SS leader, as the Nazis sought to populate the Third Reich with people they considered to be racially pure.

    One element of the scheme involved members of the SS "mating" with suitable German women. Another involved stealing children who fitted the Nazi racial stereotype of blue-eyed, blonde, Nordic super-beings who could be "Germanised" within Nazi families.

    This was the fate of Mr Heinecke, one of thousands kidnapped by the Nazis in wartime.

    He launched his bid to discover his origins after the death of his Nazi foster parents in 1975. "For years the files were closed or I got fragments of information," he said. "After 20 years I found out that I was in the Lebensborn programme but had no idea where I came from."

    It was only with the opening of the world's biggest Holocaust archive at Bad Arolsen two years ago that he was finally able to sift through the remaining paper pieces of the jigsaw of his life.

    He discovered that he was born Alexander Litau in Alnowa in the Crimea, now in Ukraine, before being snatched by German soldiers in the onslaught on Soviet Russia in 1942.

    The files showed that he was first taken to Lodz in Poland – the Nazis called it Littmannstadt – where SS "doctors" examined him to find out if he was "worthy" of Aryanisation.

    "The files show I was measured everywhere – head size, body size, whether I had 'Jewish Aspects' or not," he recalled.

    "Then I was declared to be capable of being Germanised and was shipped back to the Fatherland."

    The former shipping agent, who lives in Hamburg, now has one quest left in life: to discover the grave of his real mother and lay flowers on it.

    "That is all I want to do," he said. "I have had a good life and I loved my adoptive parents, even though they were Nazis. I was just without roots and it was these roots that caused me to spend over 30 years of my life looking for the secrets of the past."

    Mr Heinecke has vivid memories of growing up in a home where he said that Himmler and Hitler's secretary Martin Bormann were visitors.

    "I had a good upbringing after the war," he said. "My parents gave me a good education, spells in London, Paris and Ireland. They believed in Nazism at the time but they weren't war criminals and always did right by me.

    "But of course they could not answer the question of who I was. They didn't know."

    Many Lebensborn children have suffered psychological damage because of their past, with a higher suicide rate than the German average and their marriages more likely to break up.

    Mr Heinecke, whose book The Quest is being made into a documentary, is adamant that this will not be his fate. "I do not want to die unhappily like so many Lebensborn children," he said. "Just to stand at the grave of my real mother – that will be enough."

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    .... as I have often said, plenty of eastern blood in Germany. The whole thing goes back centuries.

    It also highlights the reality of their being "acceptable types" in the east , variously located. An interesting new article... one of so many telling the truth of these times.

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    Reminds me of Conan the Barbarian where they took Conan the Cimmerian and bred him to the "finest stock" to breed a superior army.

    This guy seems to have had an ideal life so I don't see what his big deal is. The lebensborn children in Norway had a horrible time after the war from what I've heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl View Post
    It also highlights the reality of their being "acceptable types" in the east , variously located.
    Yes indeed. I've seen quotes from "Hitler's Table Talk" in which Hitler is saying that Ukranian women are racially qualified to breed Aryan children with German men. There's plenty of Nordic blood in the east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm View Post
    Ukranian women are racially qualified to breed Aryan children with German men. There's plenty of Nordic blood in the east.
    Yeah...



    Maybe Hitler was talking about crimean goths aka ethnic germans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oski View Post
    Yeah...



    Maybe Hitler was talking about crimean goths aka ethnic germans.
    That ethnic Germans from anywhere would be acceptable would go without saying. He was talking about Ukranian women. Mind you, I don't recall him saying "all Ukranian women". No doubt some regions have more of a Nordic-type population than others.

    Plus compare your picture with most German women of her age, if dressed similarly. I'm sure you'd see most of them as being as undesirable as your pin-up girl. Ok, Oski?

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    Careful with the biological reductionism.
    I was just without roots and it was these roots that caused me to spend over 30 years of my life looking for the secrets of the past.
    Many Lebensborn children have suffered psychological damage because of their past, with a higher suicide rate than the German average and their marriages more likely to break up.
    These effects have to be counterbalanced in order to avoid defective Nordic shells without a Germanic inside. Rootlessness is also a widespread problem, even among those who ought to have them. One has to wonder whether Folker would have fared better in a folkish context; his name certainly does not imply an intention to waste him on a fragmented, pluralistic society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm View Post
    That ethnic Germans from anywhere would be acceptable would go without saying. He was talking about Ukranian women. Mind you, I don't recall him saying "all Ukranian women". No doubt some regions have more of a Nordic-type population than others.

    Plus compare your picture with most German women of her age, if dressed similarly. I'm sure you'd see most of them as being as undesirable as your pin-up girl. Ok, Oski?
    Oski is a name of Odin not some reference to the end of some typical slavic last name or something.

    On topic Hitler wanted to germanize all of europe from the atlantic to the urals. I'm sure it would be quite a difficult task to get the SS's approval of a slavic-germanic marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oski View Post
    Oski is a name of Odin not some reference to the end of some typical slavic last name or something..
    I was sure Oski wasn't a Slavic reference - I was just being a wiseass.


    Quote Originally Posted by Oski View Post
    On topic Hitler wanted to germanize all of europe from the atlantic to the urals. I'm sure it would be quite a difficult task to get the SS's approval of a slavic-germanic marriage.
    For the Lebensborn program the SS, as illustrated in the article, took kids who fit the phenotype, kids with no known Germanic ancestry. Why would it be different for the reproduction arm of the operation? Reproduction without marriage was at first accepted, and then encouraged, in order to provide the Reich with more future manpower.

    At least according to Hitler, there would be a bevy of Ukranian women who could be used to spawn future Aryans. If a particular Ukranian woman and particular German man are of the same phenotype, it almost undoubtedly points to common ancestry. In the eyes of Hitler and the SS this made mating acceptable.

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    I know one thing is a lie: these children weren't typically blond haired and blue eyed. I saw a film that interviewed many of them.

    Most of what is said about the reich are lies. Unless you can find some historical proof don't beleive all these news articles and claims. I've read a lot of translated reich literature and they never mention adopting children from the east yet it is always mentioned in the media today for some reason. From what I understand there is a lot Germanic blood in east europe. A lot of mixed blood as well. No different than accepting Americans into the reich who are Aryan while rejecting those who clearly are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oski View Post
    Yeah...



    Maybe Hitler was talking about crimean goths aka ethnic germans.

    Eastern Europe is a very mixed region. Ukraine in particular isn't really a nation. For a long time, it was split between Germans, Turks, Russians, Poles, Lithuanians, Greeks, Hungarians, Crimeans, Genoese, et al.
    I apologize if I missed a couple dozen more names but that goes to show how often and frequently that region had switched hands.


    This woman you posted is very Turkic. There are Ukrainians who are completely Nordic in comparison. But the vast majority of Ukrainians are in-between. Sure, occasionally you DO run into Northern Pontids, East Nordids and whatnot. But most of the people in that country are East Alpinid / Neo-Danubian (Dinarid), phenotypes that seem more appropriate for Balkans and Urals, as opposed to central Europe.

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