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    Modesty

    I'm interested what you think of the theme modesty. Do you consider yourself a modest person? How much modesty is acceptable? I'm sure you know the concept of false modesty. But sometimes when people say things like they're intelligent and it's realistically true, it's viewed as arrogance and they're criticised for "lack of modesty". So what's your view?

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    I think that modesty is an under appreciated virtue. To not claim undue attention is a good thing. The problem is in the opinion of what attention someone or something is due. I think that it does not preclude reasonable pride in yourself and your actions.

    For me it is about knowing yourself as you are and not trying to appear as something other.

    Being uncomfortable about your body does not strike me as modesty but as shame. Choosing not to draw undue attention to your body strikes me as modesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladybright View Post
    Being uncomfortable about your body does not strike me as modesty but as shame. Choosing not to draw undue attention to your body strikes me as modesty.
    That's a very interesting distinction that you make ladybright. I agree with you, but in practical terms it becomes difficult to delineate the motivation. As parents of a soon-to-be teenage girl my wife and I are constantly struggling with this issue. We don't want to impart Christian notions of body hatred to her, but at the same time, neither of us are OK at all with the hyper-sexualization of today's youth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    That's a very interesting distinction that you make ladybright. I agree with you, but in practical terms it becomes difficult to delineate the motivation. As parents of a soon-to-be teenage girl my wife and I are constantly struggling with this issue. We don't want to impart Christian notions of body hatred to her, but at the same time, neither of us are OK at all with the hyper-sexualization of today's youth.
    It's a fine line with your daughter having to learn for herself and you being there to guide her as best as you can. All you can do is suss out who she hangs out with, put forward your agreements or disagreements etc. Kids do accept rules and restrictions as long as you're consistent with them. But it changes according to their age and everyone adapts with time.

    My daughter has just turned 14 and also crossed the threshold recently. I have not taught her to be ashamed of herself (I've had a hard time with that myself), but she is a very conservative person who's not comfortable with talking about or using her body in such a way. She also doesn't like the way how some of her peers behave in such a promiscuous fashion - and I agree. They haven't changed for the better.
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    I am way too modest. In fact excessive modesty is my only flaw.
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