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    Uniting Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Norway Together?

    What would you think if Denmark Norway and Sweden were to be part of the GroßDeutschhes Vaterland, as German states? They are similar to German culturally, especially North Germany, they are similar to Germany genetically as well.
    I think it would be wonderful if these beautiful peoples came together to truely be one.

    As for the languages, the chances of Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian surviving, are slim. I think the best way to protect them would be as German states, where their languages are protected, even while German remains the sole official language. if you protect it over a larger population, it will have a better chance of surviving.

    Any thoughts?
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    no. that is just pure imperialism. the german people as a whole have not many similarities to the scandinavians of northern europe. this is especially true to the alpine people of southern germany who have almost no cultural ties to even the rest of germany especially here in the north. i don't even think norway, sweden, and denmark would do good together, adding germany is just sour. maybe northern germany/netherlands together would be more related to the scandinavian people but as for the parts of germany lower than hamburg... germans become silly.

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    Well, as a whole, maybe not, but Northern Germany, perhaps even Germany Up from and including Berlin, do.
    There is actually, very little difference between a North German and a Swede, Dane, Norwegian genetically, or culturally.

    The North Germans have many culutural ties with the Scandinavians, they are genetically identical and extremely similar culturally. I would say anything north from and Including Berlin. Hell, there are even some parts of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern where people speak Swedish.

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    I would say no. I feel no such close relationship with Germany.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fourie View Post
    The North Germans have many culutural ties with the Scandinavians, they are genetically identical and extremely similar culturally.
    That's a gross exaggeration. Even inside Scandinavia there are big genetic differences in certain parts. A Dane and North-Norwegian, for example. Or a West-Norwegian and a native Stockholmer...

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    The old protestant countries may share something together.

    The differences in Germany are pretty big too. they didn't have the unifying kingdoms like other countries but stayed a patchwork of fiefdoms for a long time.

    I travelled skandinavia and I like the jolly danes, the brooding swedes and the sober non-talking norwegians but it doesn't mean one has to move together. Or do you just move together with all people you like?
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    It would make more sense for Germany to amalgamate with the other German-speaking lands, such as Austria, the Germanic regions of Switzerland, etc. Except for Northern Germany, Germans and Scandinavians are not much more than distant cousins in a meta-ethnic sense. In fact, there are greater similarities between other West Germanic groups, such as the Dutch and English, and the Germans than with the North Germanic (Scandinavian) peoples. Nonetheless, I think the pre-1945 borders would be ideal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourie View Post
    Well, as a whole, maybe not, but Northern Germany, perhaps even Germany Up from and including Berlin, do.
    There is actually, very little difference between a North German and a Swede, Dane, Norwegian genetically, or culturally.
    i disagree. where i live i have much of the lowlander/north german/frisian/dutch/scandinavian culture blend that makes most of many parts of northern germany. when i go along the coast such as hamborg, kiel, flensburg, wilhelmhaven, etc. it is more similar to that of the scandinavian nations mostly denmark. i would say these people have more in common with the danes and dutch next door than the bavarians and austrians in the south. but any below that they are back to being germans with no connection. berlin is in no way tied to anything nordic or scandinavian. it is a very small portion of germany i am referring to.

    The North Germans have many culutural ties with the Scandinavians, they are genetically identical and extremely similar culturally. I would say anything north from and Including Berlin. Hell, there are even some parts of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern where people speak Swedish.
    yeah true in some ways. genetically the same, in the parts i refer to along the coast of northern germany and netherlands along with some cultural similarities. Berlin is very much of mainstream german culture,, which is not what we are referring to. north german/lowlander culture is a very distinct minority in germany.

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    As an outsider looking at our four respective countries, having only basic facts to base your understanding on I can see that such a set-up would have a certain appeal in the "flashback to the 1930s"-sense. But the fact is that our countries, people and cultures represent separate clusters (and within each cluster there exists even more diversity) that should not be forced together where they have historically grown apart. A Dane is not a Swede, a German is not a Norwegian.

    I have but the deepest respect for Germany and its history up until her more modern history, and there exists deep historical ties between Germany and Sweden that should not be forgotten. But even if history had turned out differently than it did I cannot support, even in theory, the submission of Sweden as a German province. We are separate countries and separate people, as any Swede or German can tell you.

    I'd recommend you to try to become more knowledgable about your diverse ancestry and hopefully come to realize the depth that each nationality encompasses. There is more to them than simply being Germanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blóš ok Andi View Post
    I would say no. I feel no such close relationship with Germany.
    I agree with you.

    Though, I could very well see a Nordic Republic - Denmark, Sweden and Norway. But not Germany, no.
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    Well, I'm not Swedish, Norwegian, Danish or German (what about Iceland?) but I do think this would be a bad idea. I also think the Germans are very different to the Scandinavian people at large, regardless of distantly shared heritage. I would even go as far as to say the Scandinavian people are more similiar to the Scots and the Irish than they are the Germans, despite Celtic vs. Germanic differentiation.

    I would keep things how they are, perhaps with past German borders.

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