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    Just to throw a new dimension on the debate...

    I sometimes listen to the Alex Jones radio show while at work and yesterday he mentioned corruption in the organ donor 'industry'. In short, hospitals acquire large sums of money for providing successful donor transplants, so the cynical mind might say that hospitals might be willing to let a critical person die just in order to harvest their organs and make money. Think about how tempting it would be for some soulless health professionals to put insufficient effort into saving your life if they know they can stand to gain from it.

    I suppose it depends how cynical you are and how much mistrust you have for the pharmaceutical/health industry. Personally, I can't rule this out - particularly in countries which do not have socialised healthcare. Organ donation is another one of those (many) things which would require on an uncorrupted society to be practiced in correct, just fashion.
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    I am not an organ donor. In the United States, it is legally possible for illegals and non-citizens to receive organ donations. It is also legally possible for criminals and inmates to receive organ donations, and while they can receive organ donations, they are not entitled to donate theirs. These are only a small percentage of cases, but that still accounts for a good many individuals who can and have received organs yet do not deserve them. When that happens, the lives of those individuals are placed above the lives of law-abiding, natural-born, American citizens who need organs too.

    Not only that, but as an organ donor, it is impossible to know just who will be receiving your organs. I couldn't very well live with the idea that my organs could potentially go to better the life of some politician who is doing no good for my country, to some wife beater, drug dealer, child abuser, drunk driver, Negro, Mexican, Jew, or Asian. I feel no obligation to such people. I feel no sense of community with them, and I don't believe in mindless generosity when dealing with something so vital as organs. For the exact same reason, I would not donate blood even if I could. As far as I'm concerned, my insides can rot with me in my grave rather than have the chance of allowing one of them monsters to live. Other than that, only my family and closest friends are welcome.

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    Just an FYI, there is a very small chance if you donate organs it will go to a person of another race.

    Although, this may not alter your decision nor am I trying to but here's what I found.

    Successful transplantation often is enhanced by the matching of organs between members of the same ethnic and racial group. For example, a patient is less likely to reject a kidney if it is donated by an individual who is genetically similar. Generally, people are genetically more similar to people of their own ethnicity or race than to people of other races.
    http://www.iaod.org/faqs-organ-donation.htm
    Can organs/tissues be transplanted between sexes and races?
    A. In most cases, yes. Organ size is critical to match donor and recipient hearts, livers and lungs. Genetic makeup between kidney donors and recipients is more critical; due to genetic makeup, African Americans will "match" better with a kidney donated from an African American than any other race as will Asians to Asians, etc.http://www.iaod.org/faqs-organ-donation.htm
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    I'd be more concerned about receiving a blood transfusion or transplant from a person-of-color, then one of them getting my blood or organ. Though non-Whites are much less likely to donate their organs or blood.

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    Yes. My religion encourages organ donation as a form of aiding neighbours. I received a brochure once about it and most religions encourage it, others leave it up to the individual. The people here who are opposed to organ donations are the Gypsies. The Gypsies believe that the body must be complete because the soul remains connected to the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    Additionally, even foreign elements etc. dont deserve a gruesome death, so while I think they shouldnt live in Europe, I dont think its a good attitude to declare them to animal-like beings which deserve no proper treatment in any case or something like that.
    I think it's unlikely for my organs to go to other races across the sea and more likely to go to the immigrants in Europe. I don't wish their death, I wish them good luck to find a compatible donor, but it won't be me. I have no obligation to save the foreign. I want no part of my body to support those who brought disfavor to my land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    The people here who are opposed to organ donations are the Gypsies. The Gypsies believe that the body must be complete because the soul remains connected to the body.
    Ugh, that's probably a good thing, especially with-no offense-Romanian medical procedures, who knows what sort of nastiness would be contained in these organs.
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    I've already "signed up" to donate mine. I figure if my organs are compatible with whoever needs them, then we must be in a way related, and I'll be helping one, or many, of my own.
    Thats true, because non-europeans generally have different blood/tissue types to us, so our organs would almost certainly go to another Germanic and/or European.

    Additionally one shouldn't think of organ donation as 'giving up your organs', think of it as someone else keeping your organs alive after you die; rather than rotting. If your religious then consider whether your body actually has to be fully intact to 'enter the after life' etc.

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    No. Organ donation harms the folk. It cannot be eugenic to help those that are weak or stupid or have bad genes. If we are personally fit and healthy today it is only because nature purged the weak from our own blood lines.
    That said if a valuable Germanic needed help it would be OK to prolong their life.
    None of my bloodline would be permitted to breed with the weak.

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    The fears of some posters are confirmed .

    Organs of British NHS Donors Given to Foreigners

    The organs of 50 British NHS donors have been given to foreigners over the past two years, with the foreign recipients paying around £75,000 a time for the private operations.

    A document, released under the freedom of information act, has shown that the liver transplant operations, which took place at NHS hospitals, took place despite severe organ shortages that mean many British patients could die whilst waiting for an organ.

    The document showed that 40 patients from EU countries Greece and Cyprus received liver transplant operations in the UK which were paid for by their governments. Livers were also given to people from outside the EU, including patients from Libya, the United Arab Emirates, China and Israel.

    The private operations cost £75,000 and the surgeons who carried out the operations received about £20,000 as a share of the operation fee.

    At the current time, a record 8,000 British patients are awaiting organs on the NHS transplant waiting list and around 269 Britons are waiting for livers.
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