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    Organs are an energetic investments which become useless with the persons death, which means to not use those organs is simply a waste of biological material if thinking about people being in a situation in which they could use those organs which would otherwise just be rot in earth, and get a better life or chance of survival.

    Some of my organs might come, one way or another, to persons of which I would say, they shouldnt get it before others, but if I can't decide that, its still better to donate one's organs randomly and possibly reaching good people and some not as good ones, than wasting the organs as a whole and making a good person die.

    Additionally, even foreign elements etc. dont deserve a gruesome death, so while I think they shouldnt live in Europe, I dont think its a good attitude to declare them to animal-like beings which deserve no proper treatment in any case or something like that.

    And for those having religious or psychological motives for refusing the donation of their organs, well, its irrational and in a way immoral in my opinion, but if there is no drastic need of organs, everybody should be able to decide on his own, even if its just a waste...

    The only thing which must be guaranteed, is that nobody should be killed for organs, nor should it be something, a ressource, with which others speculate on "the free market", but it should be used in the health care system for the well being for those in need and among those, the ones which deserve it first - kin before foreign people, young before old, decent ones before criminals etc...

    In any case, its a nightmare to think of a good individual with good traits and still a great potential dying just because someone else had irrational provisos against organ donations, so one dying in a pointless way, while the life saving organs rot in earth - absurd.

    Its like it is with euthanasia, irrational, religious and pseudoreligious constraints limit our ability to help people in a desperate situations in which we could help, if just the will to do so would be strong enough.
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    I am not, nor will I be an organ donor. I also do not donate blood. I guess I'm just stingy with my body parts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    I am not, nor will I be an organ donor. I also do not donate blood. I guess I'm just stingy with my body parts!
    In the situation of war, would you donate blood for your comrades, if assuming you fight in an army and for cause you support at least?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    In the situation of war, would you donate blood for your comrades, if assuming you fight in an army and for cause you support at least?
    I can't speak for him but I'm pretty sure if any of us were in any type of military outfit and at war, its no longer a personal choice. There is also something to be said about war, it makes brothers out of soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    In the situation of war, would you donate blood for your comrades, if assuming you fight in an army and for cause you support at least?
    As it stands right now, we are not really fighting a "war" by traditional standards and as a result take hardly any casualties at all. Like Cythraul, I have quasi-religious aversions to organ donation which, in my case, carries over into blood donation, and unless it were absolutely necessary for the survival of my comrades I wouldn't donate either.
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    I've checked the organ donor box when I renewed my driver's license. I do wish I had some say in who will get my usable organs.

    It is illegal to sell body parts or to sell one of your kidneys. This is because of lobbying by the AMA, I guess they figure any money that goes to donors is less money for the surgeons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    I am not, nor will I be an organ donor. I also do not donate blood. I guess I'm just stingy with my body parts!
    Are you allowed to donate as an active duty service member? I was told years ago (in the navy) not to participate in blood drives or donate blood just in case my blood was needed in an emergency situation. I have donate blood before but not recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    Are you allowed to donate as an active duty service member? I was told years ago (in the navy) not to participate in blood drives or donate blood just in case my blood was needed in an emergency situation. I have donate blood before but not recently.
    Yeah, we're encouraged to donate blood. Our commander even goes so far as to give us a few days off of PT if we donate. However, I think the difference from your time is that the people who come on post to take our blood reserve that blood for the troops in Iraq/Afghanistan.
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    Absolutely, I'd prefer my organs to save lives than rot. I have to say I am saddened by the reaction of some fellow members. If I were you, I would pray to the deity you believe in, that it won't be you or your family in the situation to need an organ and to be refused because the compatible person prefers to be whole after death. I would also pray not to suffer a mutilating death to be left without an organ and unfit to be a warrior in the afterlife...

    There are so many people in need out there, and so few donors. To me, not to donate my organs if they're viable to save lives, is like seeing a starving soul and throwing my bread to the trash can instead of giving it away to calm his hunger. Sometimes the lack of altruism and empathy of fellow Germanics makes me wonder if we aren't reaping what we sow. It's a big social problem we have. It prevents us from being real closely knit communities and support each other in times of need.
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    It's not about lack-of-empathy Sissi. In all other areas of my life, most would consider me a very empathetic, compassionate person. But organ donation is an important, complex issue for people with certain spiritual beliefs. Think not of it as a lack of empathy, but rather an overriding abundance of duty to the spirit. I wholeheartedly respect anyone who has opted to donate organs, and like I said before, I'm still uncertain as to my exact stance on the issue, but condemning those who don't do it because their spiritual beliefs are different from yours is a little unfair in my opinion. It's not as if (most) non-donors are withdrawing their organs for trivial, mindless reasons (in their eyes) after all, is it!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    Organs are an energetic investments which become useless with the persons death, which means to not use those organs is simply a waste of biological material
    I don´t think like that. My organs are, like my whole body, products of my parents (their genes, flesh and blood) and myself. I was born with my organs, my organs prospered while I grew up and so my organs should die with me, too. They belong to me one and only. My organs are a part of my body and I´ve the opinion that the body should remain holistic after death. Rotting flesh is a part of the natural circle and I´d prefer to rot along with my organs as a whole instead to rot only particularly.
    Some of my organs might come, one way or another, to persons of which I would say, they shouldnt get it before others, but if I can't decide that, its still better to donate one's organs randomly and possibly reaching good people and some not as good ones, than wasting the organs as a whole and making a good person die.
    I´m not responsible for the lifes of those I don´t know. Not in my lifetime and not after my death. Don´t try to put a feeling of guilt into those who don´t want to donate their organs. This is no fine style.
    Additionally, even foreign elements etc. dont deserve a gruesome death, so while I think they shouldnt live in Europe, I dont think its a good attitude to declare them to animal-like beings which deserve no proper treatment in any case or something like that.
    No one said something like this. But I, personally, would only donate an organ (in my lifetime) if one of my nearest family-member is in serious need of it! Because then the organ would remain in the same family - in the same bloodline. That´s the only exception I could accept.
    And for those having religious or psychological motives for refusing the donation of their organs, well, its irrational and in a way immoral in my opinion, but if there is no drastic need of organs, everybody should be able to decide on his own, even if its just a waste...
    Well, then I´ve no problem to act "irrational" and "immoral" in your eyes: The integrity of my body is more important to me than the opinions of others about me in this case.
    In any case, its a nightmare to think of a good individual with good traits and still a great potential dying just because someone else had irrational provisos against organ donations, so one dying in a pointless way, while the life saving organs rot in earth - absurd.
    So many people with good traits die day by day and most of them don´t even have a chance to receive possible organ donations! Accidents, murder, cancer... Life is so hard sometimes, but this doesn´t mean I´m responsible for everyone with my organs.
    Its like it is with euthanasia, irrational, religious and pseudoreligious constraints limit our ability to help people in a desperate situations in which we could help, if just the will to do so would be strong enough.
    I find your comparison with euthanasia extremely inappropriate and even hostile to some extend. You show a lack of tolerance for people with others views about their bodies and organs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sissi View Post
    I have to say I am saddened by the reaction of some fellow members. If I were you, I would pray to the deity you believe in, that it won't be you or your family in the situation to need an organ and to be refused because the compatible person prefers to be whole after death. I would also pray not to suffer a mutilating death to be left without an organ and unfit to be a warrior in the afterlife...
    To make it short: I wouldn´t want to receive organ donations from foreigners. I´d prefer to die instead, simple as that.
    I will not donate organs and so I have no right or wish to receive organs from others - this is self-explanatory.

    I would only want to receive organs from members of my near family because then the respective body-part comes from the own bloodline and remains in that line.

    My spiritual believe on this issue is indebatable.

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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