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    Is There Such a Thing As Master/Slave in Marriage?

    The divorce thread kinda took a turn from discussing divorce to discussing the roles of men and women in marriages/relationships.

    I know some of you will probably just stay out of it all but I am wondering a few things from both the men and the women here.

    For the women: What would you feel like if your current partner referred to you as his slave? Or referred to your relationship to one of a master and a slave?

    In my opinion both men and women have certain rolls which depict one controlling one thing and the other controlling the other. For example, alot of time the women will do the bill paying, grocery shopping, cooking, taking care of children, and cleaning. If we thought like some here then couldn't we refer that to women being Dominate in some situations too. And, those were only a few to mention. Don't men and women have dominate rolls to play? Not just men? I am going to go ahead and say, yes, we do.

    Men: Do you consider yourself your partners master? Are you the only dominate one in the relationship? If you are you must be a very very busy man. Would you divorce your wife if she didn't become your slave? What roll do you want your wife or future wife to play? What would make you happy?
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    Yes there is such a thing, in Islamic faith for example. Women are considered property and treated as such.

    In the Western world however, this doesn't generally exist. Like I said in the other thread, I believe marriage is a contract. Therefore I'd consider my husband a partner, not a master or slave.
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    Hmm, I don't like the word slave so much, it has some negative connotations because of past issues. A word I prefer to it is servant. In my view, both persons in the couple have a duty to serve and protect the other. But there isn't a shame in being a servant. We are also servants to God, to our parents...

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    We're not married or anything but I guess it still fits:


    She wears the pants because I like it that way.

    If there's something I really don't agree on that doesn't sit well with me then I become a bit more authorative and call the shots. Otherwise I'm content

    This is okay I think, though sometimes gives the impression that I can "change like the wind" when something happens that I strongly disagree with etc.

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    Slave to me denotes someone who isn't considered part of the family and I think it is a poor choice for a word to use to describe the relationship between a man and a wife. In my opinion man and wife is adequate enough terms, terms that don't degrade one of the parties involved down to a sub-human level in terminology. A man has his role in the family, and duties that go along with this role, as does his wife. For a man to be in charge of his family is only natural, and is probably a more effective and harmonious set-up compared to a family where the man is equal to that of his wife and there are effectively two bosses. Especially in this day and age when certain ideologies have instigated a war between the sexes so that the two now oft have very different ideas with regards to upbringing, gender roles etc. The family has become a battleground for cultural marxism, and the wrong side is currently winning. Any future children of mine will under no circumstances be exposed to any such perversities.

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    I think it was Bismarck that said in every relationship there is a horse and rider. Maybe I'm wrong. In marriage the relationship changes, often daily. Sometimes the man is the horse, sometimes he is the rider. It depends whose opinion is strongest on which issue. I've been married twenty years and feel knowledgeable about such things. My wife manages my life and finances so I yield to her opinions in this as she is nearly always right. She even said we should buy gold in April! unfortunately we didn't.
    But if it is matters such as camping or mountain climbing she will follow my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing View Post
    In my opinion both men and women have certain rolls which depict one controlling one thing and the other controlling the other. For example, alot of time the women will do the bill paying, grocery shopping, cooking, taking care of children, and cleaning. If we thought like some here then couldn't we refer that to women being Dominate in some situations too. And, those were only a few to mention. Don't men and women have dominate rolls to play? Not just men? I am going to go ahead and say, yes, we do.

    Men: Do you consider yourself your partners master? Are you the only dominate one in the relationship? If you are you must be a very very busy man. Would you divorce your wife if she didn't become your slave? What roll do you want your wife or future wife to play? What would make you happy?
    No. Though there is a very defining line to asking favors with your partner, for example, I expect my partner to generally do what I ask(I will say 'please' and 'thank-you'), while I shall do like-wise.

    I believe that men and woman have certain jobs that they are good at, as do men, for example, having a female lumberjack would be much less productive than a male one. While at the same time, men would find great difficultly raising a child, it's all relative.

    Men and women have jobs that they specialize in, and should stick to them. But I would never view my partner as a slave/inferior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing View Post
    Men: Do you consider yourself your partners master? Are you the only dominate one in the relationship?
    Yes and yes. But those answers are subjective.

    I am the man of the house and everything I say goes. If there is an aspect of my partners life that is not worthy of receiving attention from herself and that it will distract her care from the children and house then it will be gotten rid of.

    With all that said, I have made, and still make sacrifices for her and our family.
    Unfortunately, there is one sacrifice that always keeps lapsing.

    But is she my slave? No, far from it. She is welcome to walk out the door and end the relationship. As am I.
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    Nah, my wife gets pissed off at me sometimes because I may be too indecisive. I ask her what she wants to do and what she thinks and she'll yell at me to just make a decision.

    I think both of us want the other to be more dominating in each others lives, in terms of the decisions made. Or it might just be we're both afraid of making the wrong decision and being subject to the scorn of the other.

    It works out though, if the wrong decision is made we both realize we're both to blame and just let it go.

    I think we've got a good back and forth domination going on. There's somethings I won't budge on and same for her. Usually when we see the other won't budge on certain things we'll just grumble and say ok, but I'm not gonna like it!

    That said I handle all the typical man stuff and she gets to tell me how to help cook dinner or clean, if she needs the help.

    Marriage is weird.

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    Being treated as of referred to as a slave or servant would never work for me. That was worked out very early in the relationship with my husband. Public and private respect is important to a relationship. My children will learn to treat their intimates with respect and only accept respect. We are not equal in all things but act as equals in our household. A united front is important with children.

    I have known some women in the D/s and S/M scene who were happy with this kind of relationship. I have known some men who chose to be the slave/servant as well.
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