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    Relationship Between Canada and Australia

    Canada and Australia are extremely similar, but it seems to be that their relationship is rather distant, when compared with the US-UK relationship.
    Demographics of both nations are similar. Both are rather populous nations settled largely by people from the British Isles within the British commonwealth. Both nations have extremely large, very cosmopolitan cities that are well known internationally. Both nations suffered much more than than their share of casualties in WWI and WWII within the commonwealth. Australia or Canada (or NZ) is usually at the front of list in terms of suffering casualties relative to their population. (Also both nations are currently being inundated by Chinese and Indians). But it seems to me that is where the similarities end.

    Canada seems to be a much more progressive and liberal nation than Australia (although not under this current administration). If I could use the analogy of American states, Canada is like Massachussetts, where Australia reminds me of Texas. Australia seems to be more active in the world stage, playing a police power in SE asia, where Canada usually plays a secondary role to the US in international affairs.

    Also it seems to me that relations between Canada and Australia is like that between any two nations. There is no "special relationship," as Winston Churchill described the relations between US and UK, even though both nations have almost identical demographic backgrounds. Canadians don't seem to think too much of Australia, and the same is probably the other way around (although I've been to Australia, so Australians here can correct me on this). Is this estrangement (seems moreso on the Canadian side) due to political differences?
    Or do Australians see Canadians as too tainted by the Francophone influence?

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    Canada shares a border with the US - the longest undefended border in the world. Most Canadians live within a 2 or 3 hour drive of the US border. Besides the Quebec situtation, Canadians elites are obsessed about being different from Americans. There really isn't much of an Canadian identity, just Quebecois & everyone else. Frankly the only reason I can think of as to why Anglophonic Canada shouldn't become the 51st state is that they would probably vote for Barack Obama for president - as a whole Canada really is like Massachusetts with perhaps the exception of Alberta. Australians on the other hand are on the otherside of the world from both England & America. This has allowed Australians to form a distinct & "cool" identity in the US, generally based upon it's beach culture & the mythos of the outback. Canadians are often mistaken for Americans, Australians are not.

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    Well, the UK does not have any more of a relationship with Canada (individiual people, cultural, governmental, sporting levels) than it does the USA.

    So it would not surprise me if Canada and Australia are distant to each other.

    UK shares current migration (Brits over there, Aussies over here) with Australia & NZ, also all kinds of sporting interests. None of that is true for Canada.

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    You are right to exclude Alberta from the rest of Canada. Belive me, we dont appreciate the fact that the whole of Canada has been continually holding Alberta back for the past 5 decades. Billions of dollars in transfer payments when we could use the money at home breeds and certain level of discontent.

    I think Canadians and Aussies are quite the same, and we get along quite well. Im for a Canadian/ Aussie union. We can call it Caustralada!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEnglishNorman View Post
    Well, the UK does not have any more of a relationship with Canada (individiual people, cultural, governmental, sporting levels) than it does the USA.

    So it would not surprise me if Canada and Australia are distant to each other.

    UK shares current migration (Brits over there, Aussies over here) with Australia & NZ, also all kinds of sporting interests. None of that is true for Canada.
    Why do you say that, exactly? Perhaps the numbers for Australia are higher (though not among my acquaintances), but the link of real human beings is substantial enough to have made some imprint on my own family and neighbours. I've often heard people talk about their relatives over in Canada, down the years. I've not thought about it before, but I think the cases outnumber those for Australia. The other day I had my hair cut by a woman who is planning to take her family to Vancouver Island, and who has a friend already out there. Perhaps this is a regional matter, with Southerners being more ready to go South, and Northwesterners to go Northwest?

    And what of our Freydis even?!?

    As for the distance between Canada and Australia, well, if there is something to be discussed there, then it's the result of having only a parent country in common, and little sibling commonality, having been 'brought up' in a very different environment, with different neighbours (or lack thereof).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswiu View Post


    As for the distance between Canada and Australia, well, if there is something to be discussed there, then it's the result of having only a parent country in common, and little sibling commonality, having been 'brought up' in a very different environment, with different neighbours (or lack thereof).

    By enviroment do you include climate? Don't know how I could have overlooked that one. The southern most part of Canada is wedged in between Michigan & New York with much of the country covered with tundra. Much of Australia is in the tropical latitudes. The climate would account for major differences in lifestyle & attitude between Canada & Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    Canada shares a border with the US - the longest undefended border in the world. Most Canadians live within a 2 or 3 hour drive of the US border. Besides the Quebec situtation, Canadians elites are obsessed about being different from Americans. There really isn't much of an Canadian identity, just Quebecois & everyone else...
    Hm well, while I agree for the most part, that Canadians are for the most part similar to those in the Northern and Western US, I do think there is at least one strong regional Anglo-identity: Newfoundland has a pretty distinct culture (I should know, as I live there half the year) and even a distinct accent/dialect from the rest of Canada, although many of them would not consider themselves a part of Canada.

    However, with every successive generation, Newfoundlanders seem ever more like their mainland counterparts.

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    I like Canada and would like to go there, if not live there some day. I like it because from what I know of it it IS similar to Australia yet it is like the United States in a way too. It is a beautiful country, the wilderness is amazing.

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    yes, the canadian rockies offers perhaps an unparalleled view of alpine and glacial scenery, dotted with high altitude lakes and unblemished by logging and other industries have pockmarked many a beautiful natural places in the US.

    perhaps the only thing that differs between Canada and Australia, is that Canada is much prettier!

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    From my understanding of the demographics, Canada is a lot less British in blood than Australia is, and receives a much smaller immigration intake from Britain every year than Australia and NZ do.
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