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  • Scandinavism (the idea of Scandinavia as a unified region or a single nation).

    56 29.02%
  • Nordism (Nordic economic co-operation and integration).

    53 27.46%
  • Another form of Scandinavian or Nordic unity.

    16 8.29%
  • None of the above, I believe the Scandinavian/Nordic countries should retain their independence.

    61 31.61%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matrix View Post
    I don't think they should unify in a single nation. I think they should stay independent but establish friendly relationships between them.
    Indeed. But what I would rather like to see, would be a more complex union. Not only Nordic countries, but rather European. Tho the idea of making an alliance in between the scandinavian countries would be a wise first step. Wheter military (independant from EU) financial and so forth, the main prior must be the people who leads an eventually agreement of this bond tying. Based upon today this seems very hard to accomplish. A sniff of nationalism or any sort of Nordic thought could easily ruin it. But I would indeed like to see this happen. It would may be the new spiritual awakening of Baldr (life force).

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    I vote none of above...
    Since I want to see Sweden as one strong independent country.

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    I am against the idea that Scandinavia should be one single country or nation. As being half Swedish and half-Norwegian I sometimes the similarites that peopke talk about between the different Scandinavian countries can be exaggerated. Norwegian, Danes and Swedes ARE different people, and the languages are different, and not just dialects as some people say.

    Of course, you can argue that people within the nations are also different from each other, and that someone from Skåne can have some similarites with a Dane that he does not have with a northern Sweden. But still, Scandinavia is a very big area, and cultural differences are bound to occur. So I think the current borders that are set are a somewhat good way of knowing where the major cultural differences occur, and they should be respected. Also we have the pride in the national state, and some may say that it is a little superficial, but as I said there are general cultural differences between the states, and some national romanticism has added to that, and I think that also should be respected, although too much national romanticism (which sometimes can feel "fake") is not always good for friendliess between brother nations.

    So therefore I propose a union between the Scandinavian countries that is mostly political and militaristic, but with culutral exchange so that the pope learn more about the other' countries. I could see this kind of union including all Germanic countries too, albeit maybe in a little looser form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarlsson View Post
    Indeed. But what I would rather like to see, would be a more complex union. Not only Nordic countries, but rather European. Tho the idea of making an alliance in between the scandinavian countries would be a wise first step. Wheter military (independant from EU) financial and so forth, the main prior must be the people who leads an eventually agreement of this bond tying. Based upon today this seems very hard to accomplish. A sniff of nationalism or any sort of Nordic thought could easily ruin it. But I would indeed like to see this happen. It would may be the new spiritual awakening of Baldr (life force).

    - Jarlsson
    The difference between European countries is greater than between the Nordo-Germanic countries.
    At best we could have Germanicism,
    but no Europeanism.
    A Nordic person from Scandinavia,
    and a Southern person from Sicily or Greece are little related.
    Besides speaking Indo-European language.
    Culturally and racially they are different.
    I think we should keep our identities and not mix.
    North in the North and South in the South.

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    Nordic countries should unite in one nation? Hell no. That would be a very bad thing to do. We are all close related but still free,independent, separate nations.
    This kind of union no, stay separate, but defend, help and support each other yes

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    While I do think that most people realize the difference between the Nordic countries and Scandinavia, it is important to observe the different constellations in this matter.

    I do not believe in a Nordic union. As a Finland-swede, that is the direct descendant of Swedes who came here during the Crusades and later relocating within their own country since there was no "Finland", I realize the vast cultural differences between the Fenno-Ugric Finland and the Germanic Scandinavia. Finns have always been more isolated than Scandinavians. Finnish villages barely even had contact with each other by the time the Swedes started building infrastructure in what is Finland today. Generally, ethnically aware Swedes tend to have warm feelings Finns, while vice versa is not true. Sadly, many Finns still see Swedes as some kind of persecutors or even weaklings. Because of this, Finns need to take care of their own matters, even if they would be welcome in the eyes of the Scandinavian countries in a union.

    The Finnish group instinct is very strong, which is seen by the low percentage of immigrants in comparison to the other Nordic countries. Finland-swedes such as myself sadly dominate the multicultural support groups, I'm sure that without us, the country would be much better off. That being said, a Scandinavian union sounds much more appealing in my ears. The national states would still exist, yet with a broadened field of co-operation in order to gain more influence in Europe. As much as I like the thought of European unity in a broader perspective, I am not fond of the European Union. Scandinavia as a political force would be much better off influence-wise if the co-operation was increased.

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    i think scandinavians denmark norway and sweden should retain their independence from the EU. we are our own people. dana pallessen
    if you are not free, you are lost with out hope- ben franklin(homeschooled)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldomar View Post
    I vote none of above...
    Since I want to see Sweden as one strong independent country.
    Strong and independent? Not very realistic. Well, independent as in sovereign, yes, very much so, but we need to co-operate much more with our Scandinavian neighbours in areas that affect us all, I think, and to strengthen our ties and common goals. We are much stronger as a unified voice than we are alone as we are very small countries in terms of the number of inhabitans.

    We especially need to work out a common plan for the repatriation of the immigrants that have been allowed into our countries in insane numbers, and work to restore our own traditional, healthy and ethnically homogenous societies that we once had.

    We are facing a situation where we WILL inevitably be replaced by other racial groups, and the Nordic countries as history knew them will be no more. I really hope the future of my people is not extinction, and I would like to work together with my fellow Scandinavian countries, and other Germanic countries as well, to see to it that this will not be the outcome.

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    From a National Socialist perspective, you could never accept a democracy. And that also means that one cannot accept a national state. National states splits the Nordic peoples and their interests apart. Look what the true democrats did when Finland was invaded by the Russians for example.

    I want to see at least a Nordic union, but rather a Nordic-Baltic union. Of course the countries would stay the same, as some elements in Finland and the Baltic states are a different subgroup of the white race compared to Scandinavians and some elements in Finland/Estonia. But we would be united and co-operate while would share the same interests.

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    Why the Baltic states? The Baltic Sea was important in the past, but nowadays I don't see why we would need them or why they would want us, after all they are even different from each other. A union with three ethnicities (Germanic, Finnic, Slavic) doesn't sound like a good idea.

    As I've said before, I prefer federation/union of only one ethnicity, Germanic. And for west Scandinavians, even Celts would be closer at hand to form a union. Icelanders would probably be closer to Irish than to Latvians. And places like Orkney and Shetland would in my opinion, have much more place in a Nordic Union than even Finland. Finland have of course been close to Sweden politically in parts of modern history, but we must build a union on a stronger foundation that could last longer.

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