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  • Scandinavism (the idea of Scandinavia as a unified region or a single nation).

    56 29.02%
  • Nordism (Nordic economic co-operation and integration).

    53 27.46%
  • Another form of Scandinavian or Nordic unity.

    16 8.29%
  • None of the above, I believe the Scandinavian/Nordic countries should retain their independence.

    61 31.61%
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    I support Nordism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rozenstorm View Post
    I'm not very clear about this, but is it true that the Fins and Swedes don't get along very well?
    That's not true.

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    A unified Scandinavia, with Finland as observing member.

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    No way, I oppose Nordism
    If I dedide to vacation or move to Sweden or Norway I want to know that these countries' leaders are choosing to keep their patriotism, nationhood and freedom. Being integrated into some Cosmopolitian melting pot would turn into something like the EU and the North American Union. This would also integrate the altaic nations of Finland and Finnmark with the Germanic Scandinavian nations, maybe leading to further multi-culturalism and mixing of blood between them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjuana_of_Persia View Post
    No way, I oppose Nordism
    If I dedide to vacation or move to Sweden or Norway I want to know that these countries' leaders are choosing to keep their patriotism, nationhood and freedom. Being integrated into some Cosmopolitian melting pot would turn into something like the EU and the North American Union. This would also integrate the altaic nations of Finland and Finnmark with the Germanic Scandinavian nations, maybe leading to further multi-culturalism and mixing of blood between them.
    I agree with you, which is why Scandinavism is an alternative, since this would exclude the uralic Finland and the Baltics. However, since those countries are in the same situation as us, having Russia as a neighbour, we should incorporate them somehow, an observing member, or simply incorporating their armies into one army to defend northern Europe from The Drunken Bear.

    Though I fail to see why someone as mixed as you could argue about the preservation of the Scandinavian people, we are in fact very, very close, racially speaking. My nephews' mother is Norwegian, from just across the border into Norway, would you say they are mixed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjuana_of_Persia View Post
    No way, I oppose Nordism
    If I dedide to vacation or move to Sweden or Norway I want to know that these countries' leaders are choosing to keep their patriotism, nationhood and freedom. Being integrated into some Cosmopolitian melting pot would turn into something like the EU and the North American Union. This would also integrate the altaic nations of Finland and Finnmark with the Germanic Scandinavian nations, maybe leading to further multi-culturalism and mixing of blood between them.
    The people in the Nordic countries have same ethnicity except the Sami people and the Finns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoppoyz View Post
    The people in the Nordic countries have same ethnicity except the Sami people and the Finns.
    Are you kidding me? The Sami and the Finns are Uralic, and so are Estonians (and Hungarians, and Turks, etc...). Lats and Lithuanians are Slavic. Pretty far from Germanic.

    No, we stick to ourselves, the Scandinavians.
    Leave behind the weak, we must take the strong in hand:
    Together are the wicked violent forces in command

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    Its sounds like you misunderstood what I meant in my post, I meant that I was against integration and mixing between Germanics and Uralics not Germanic Norwegians and Germanic Swedes. I do however think that Finland and Estonia should definately form a military alliance with the Scandinavian countries if Russia starts to act threatening or starts to throw its weight around over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavus Magnus View Post
    Are you kidding me? The Sami and the Finns are Uralic, and so are Estonians (and Hungarians, and Turks, etc...). Lats and Lithuanians are Slavic. Pretty far from Germanic.

    No, we stick to ourselves, the Scandinavians.
    I know. Read my comments again because you missunderstood what I was written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoppoyz View Post
    I know. Read my comments again because you missunderstood what I was written.
    No, I didn't misunderstand -- The Baltic countries are also included in the nordic region, and they are culturally and racially separate from us.
    Leave behind the weak, we must take the strong in hand:
    Together are the wicked violent forces in command

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavus Magnus View Post
    No, I didn't misunderstand -- The Baltic countries are also included in the nordic region, and they are culturally and racially separate from us.
    The Baltic countries is not a part of the Nordic region.

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