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    Was the Conversion to Abrahamic Religions the Beginning of a Racial Suicide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrioten View Post
    I think the Church would do well by returning to its traditions, both in terms of rituals and beliefs, whilst presenting a more self-confident front; more of certainty, less of doubt. No more of this ecumenical nonsense, which you certainly wont find in a synagouge or a mosque. The Church can never compete with the normless, demandless, anything goes lifestyle of modernity, what they can provide is the exact opposite, a "counter-culture" of you will, to those who have become disillusioned by the crumbling idols of modern society. These are two different crowds with rather different needs.

    The first crowd is similar to those who only hang out with you to take advantage of all the cool stuff you own or the money you are prepared to spend on entertainment, all for their personal short-term benefit before they move on to their real friends. The second crowd is made up of potentially highly loyal friends who seek out your company for your own personal qualities, and for whom the activities are simply enjoyable perks.

    Which Churches are successful in attracting followers today? The answer is those churches who have sticked to a traditional message and who unapologetically preach the traditional beliefs of the Church. The used-to-be-national Church is in a position like no other Church to be a stable beacon of faith in our society if only it would be prepared to shoulder that role with the zeal necessary to do so.

    One of the problems is of course the change of the guard that has taken place within the church, with priests who themselves doubt in the teachings they are supposed to hold as holy truths. They are afraid to provoke, afraid to not be politically correct, afraid to come off as overly self-confident, this leaves them with a watered down message of peace and love and not much else. The Church needs to be on the offensive instead of on the defensive. It needs to be on the march, a modern-day Crusade, for the faith.

    That is how you restore peoples' faith in the old Church, in the hearts of those who are looking for a beacon of light and hope, to lead them away from the Godforsaken swamp that is the modern world.

    It is common today for those who do not agree with the liberalisation of the Swedish Protestant Church to leave the Church. I have thought about it but decided against it. The Swedish Church has been the Church which my ancestors belonged to for centuries, it would feel wrong to leave it, and also I would never want to join some off-shot frikyrka, "free-Church" which I view with great suspicion. If only they could get their act together...

    Now when they are about to accept homosexual marriages it might prove to be the straw that broke the camel's back, we'll see. But it feels wrong to have to leave the Church due to the corrupt minds of priests cast in a cultural-marxist mould.

    I personally believe that the begining of racial suicide came with Christendom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anfang View Post
    I personally believe that the begining of racial suicide came with Christendom.
    The beginning of racial suicide came with the possibility for easy contact and travel between previously relatively isolated areas. For us out here on the northwestern edge of Europe, it started with Rome. The Jews first got to the Rhineland under the Caesars, I believe. It was inevitable a thing to happen though. Once one people developed the propensity for a large empire, it was going to happen. Once an Empire existed, people were going to move about within it, as they wouldn't dared have done when every fifty miles meant a new tribe, new dangers and customs to deal with. Several empires rubbing up against each other created the Oikumene, or the known civilised world. Once created, it would never go away. And once navigation and transport improved, the whole damn planet was in reach. Universalist ideas like Christianity and Islam were inevitable in such an expanding horizon. We would never have been able to keep our old religion in the face of it all. This globalisation is a painful trauma we have to go through, which was inevitable the moment people began to build transoceanic empires. Hopefully we'll survive and learn from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anfang View Post
    I personally believe that the begining of racial suicide came with Christendom.
    I guess there isn't much hiding from the fact that Christianity is essentially a non-white religion. However, I would imagine that is an area of fierce debate and would largely depend on who you consider to be white and whether the people of the Arab countries on the Mederteranian were white at the time, we're talking several thousand of years ago in which the racial make-up could have been vastly different. For example, the general consensus is that the Ancient Egyptians were quite European looking, and paintings in tombs back that up. Would you consider the Egyptians white nowadays?

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    I think that there is another point which is that the Church created property laws, capitalism and banking which were fairly decent for a while, but then became corrupted.

    It was the beginning of administrationism and the corruption of meritocracy.

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    We had a related discussion not so long ago here about the historic failure of Heathenism. I remember going into some depth about my thoughts on the matter and at one point in my ramblings stumbled across what I believe to be a fresh theory, if not the truth itself:

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    Whilst writing the above, something occured to me. I believe that secret societies with grand agendas have existed since time immemorial. I believe that singular agendas have been passed down, at least as far back as the Romans. I also believe that the current incarnation of this legacy are attempting to introduce a one-world Government. What if this same agenda has been in the works since the Romans, handed down to successive empires since then? Multiculturalism and open-border policy is absolutely a conspiracy to break down cultural, racial and national boundaries in order to ease in a one-world Government. The Women's Lib movement was a conspiracy to break down family and community bonds. I can't help but think that Christianity, as an invention by the Romans, was the very first (and most powerful) weapon to get the ball rolling and eventually pave the way for a one-world Government. Think about it! Paganism = Pan-Nationalism, so whilst it still prevails, Globalism and therefore the potential for one-world Government would be impossible. The Romans set us up! Christianity is the worst thing that ever happened to the world and it's all a farce.
    "If by being a racialist, you mean a man who despises a human being because he belongs to another race, or a man that believes one race is inherently superior to another in civilisation or capability of civilisation, then the answer is emphatically no." - Enoch Powell

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    Personally I'm getting increasingly weary of the behaviour and influence of the followers of these middle-eastern fairy stories. In the past it could be argued that Christianity adapted to European culture was a generally positive force, establishing a shared morality that bound Christendom. If another dopey Mormon or Jehovah's Witness knocks on my door or pesters me I'm likely to find it impossible to remain polite. Christianity is now fragmented, divisive and pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo-Heretic View Post
    Personally I'm getting increasingly weary of the behaviour and influence of the followers of these middle-eastern fairy stories. In the past it could be argued that Christianity adapted to European culture was a generally positive force, establishing a shared morality that bound Christendom. If another dopey Mormon or Jehovah's Witness knocks on my door or pesters me I'm likely to find it impossible to remain polite. Christianity is now fragmented, divisive and pointless.
    Even though I did not start this thread, I will say that your post brings to mind that the Christian sects keep multiplying until they are not even "Christian sects" but kingdoms of cults. Liberalism helped the insanity to keep duplicating, as anyone can now start their own "Church". All this because following the abstract concept of 'scripture" as interpreted by whoever and or the advent of mass communication technology makes it possible.

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    I am afraid that I have to disappoint you, Anfang. It was actually I who split this thread off into a discussion of its own. German sense of order, you know.

    You can read that in the "Revitalising the Church" thread. Since it was not merged with an existing thread but rather split off on its own accord, I had thought it was enough to mention that in the other thread.

    Apologies for any discomfort caused, I would have gone ahead and added "[split from "How to revitalise the Church?"]" to the thread title so as to make no mistake if there was just enough space to add it in.

    Though you should really be honoured to be credited as the initial poster of the thread, all implications of the "Roman paradigm" are what I also consider part of what started to get us into this mess in the first place, even though back then there would have been no way to predict it. Many of my old posts, here and otherwise echo such a sentiment.

    As such, I've pretty much granted you the credits for a topic I've been meaning to discuss in its own right for a while anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    I am afraid that I have to disappoint you, Anfang. It was actually I who split this thread off into a discussion of its own. German sense of order, you know.

    You can read that in the "Revitalising the Church" thread. Since it was not merged with an existing thread but rather split off on its own accord, I had thought it was enough to mention that in the other thread.

    Apologies for any discomfort caused, I would have gone ahead and added "[split from "How to revitalise the Church?"]" to the thread title so as to make no mistake if there was just enough space to add it in.

    Though you should really be honoured to be credited as the initial poster of the thread, all implications of the "Roman paradigm" are what I also consider part of what started to get us into this mess in the first place, even though back then there would have been no way to predict it. Many of my old posts, here and otherwise echo such a sentiment.

    As such, I've pretty much granted you the credits for a topic I've been meaning to discuss in its own right for a while anyway.
    I generally earn what I have, and yes I am extremely surprised that it was you. I believe that the thread title is being changed in order for it to have some semblance to a thread that I would have posted.
    Obviously I would not have made the post if I did not believe the statement, but then again if you have noticed, I have never posted a Thread in the Christianity sector, partially out of respect for the people who habitually post here- I even try to not bee too bombastic with the Christians on this section where in the heathen section I may feel free to say 'jesus is only a dead jew nailed to a piece of wood" or something along those lines.

    The fact is and the reason why i thought and think that posting it in my name was not appropriate is that although I reject "Christianity" I believe that Islam Is worse. I hear that 4000 germans a year convert to islam, and while those are not huge numbers they are 4000 too many.I would rather have 4000 old Catholics than 4000 new moslems.(especially since bavarians make good infantry.)

    Now what was your plan for this orphan thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anfang View Post
    I personally believe that the begining of racial suicide came with Christendom.
    Christianity is the only thing that has kept us alive this long. How many more "wars between brothers" might we have had had Christianity not instilled atleast some measure of unity between Europeans?

    Christianity saved us from Islam and saved us from eath other long enough for concepts like "European," "ethnicity," and "race" to take shape.






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