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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    I don't think I would ever join an organization whose sole purpose is to respond to negative portrayals of Germanics.
    But it won't be the "sole purpose". In addition to defending Germanic peoples against attrocity propaganda, we'll publicise the truth about our great history, heritage, and forefathers, as well as our inventions, scientific discoveries, and overall contributions to the betterment of mankind.



    The whole idea seems very whiney, much like the ADL and SPLC.
    I've never heard any mainstream media describe the ADL or SPLC as "whiney". Both groups demonize Germans and white gentiles and work against our interests. We should not only defend ourselves we should expose them for the hate-filled, anti-Germanic jews they are.

    Should we really lower ourselves to the levels of the various minorities who are constantly complaining about how they are vilified and discriminated against?
    Hell yes, we oughta complain about being vilified and discriminated against. If we don't nobody else will, that's for sure. Wouldn't you defend yourself in court against vilification by prosecutors ??

    I think a better way to spend our time and energy would be to support your local heritage societies; or, if there isn't one in your area, start one up.
    Let's do both. Support our local heritage societies AND recruit their members and supporters into our Anti-Defamation League for Germanics. We should UNITE and ORGANIZE the Germanic masses. And our ADL will not only defend our name and expose jewish lies about our forefathers, our ADL will also fight for and defend our peoples during the inevitable race wars brought on by the collapse of the economy when welfare checks cease being delivered to ghettos and barrios. Think "Katrina" and "The Rodney King riots" muliplied by 100,000 coast-to-coast. Itz a coming and mock schnell.

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    Another Compelling Reason For Germanic Unification

    The article below was published in the largest newspaper in Australia back in 1995, and has been widely circulated among pro-white groups & websites ever since. The statistics are taken directly from FBI crime statistics.

    My point is this: Since blacks committed that many crimes against whites when the economy was good, just imagine what it'll be like for our divided and disorganized people when all hell breaks loose after the economy collapses.



    The Race War of Black Against White

    by Paul Sheehan
    from the Sydney Morning Herald
    May 20, 1995

    The longest war America has ever fought is the Dirty War, and it is not over. It has lasted 30 years so far and claimed more than 25 million victims. It has cost almost as many lives as the Vietnam War. It determined the result of last years congressional election. Yet the American news media do not want to talk about the Dirty War, which remains between the lines and unreported. In fact, to even suggest that the war exists is to be discredited. So lets start suggesting, immediately.

    No matter how the crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the official statistics portray: for the past 30 years a large segment of black America has waged a war of violent retribution against white America. And the problem is getting worse, not better. In the past 20 years, violent crime has increased more than four times faster than the population. Young blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites. Nearly all the following figures, which speak for themselves, have not been reported in America:

    * According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes.

    * Most victims of race crime - about 90 per cent - are white, according to the survey “Highlights from 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims”, published in 1993.

    * Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.

    * Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent racial crimes of whites.

    * According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.

    These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960s, when there was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not coincidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning of the modern civil rights movement. Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering. Justice Department and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-racial murders. By comparisons 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 were killed in the Korean war.When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft) are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious. The Bureau of Justice Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992, and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse).

    When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans have committed at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past 30 years. It is the great defining disaster of American life and American ideals since World War II. All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media. It prefers to maintain a paternalistic double-standard in its coverage of black America, a lower standard.

    For more facts about Black on White crime read “The Color of Crime” report by the New Century Foundation. Read this report online at www.davidduke.com/colorcrime/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by EQ Fighter View Post
    It would be sort of an alliance, between groups for mutual benefit.
    It goes without saying that we cooperate with everyone under terms that benefit us while keeping in mind that we are distinct. This is not limited to Germanics or even Whites, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by EQ Fighter View Post
    WW2 is a perfect example of what happened when Germans attempted to go it alone.
    WW2 is a perfect example of what happens when the major powers of the time try to assert their interests, which has happened countless times throughout history and will happen again with certainty.

    Quote Originally Posted by EQ Fighter View Post
    Bottom line is Germans are outnumbered 100 to 1 and those are not good odds.
    Those are good odds for any German, but we will take the help we can get without becoming anyone's pets. Those ideas of White or European unity have no basis in reality, where power reigns. America is going to end up on the opposite side once again and this is not going to be prevented by efforts to introduce some WN anti-identity that adds racism as an afterthought to contemporary degeneracy or falls back on mindless rituals of the past without any understanding of the principles that informed them in their historical context.

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    I think both sides make good points. But it´s an old Germanic weakness that we tend to fight each other and neutralize our efforts mutually instead of concentrating ourselves on the real dangers from outside.

    Mueller Lite may have a particularly troubling past but I don´t think it´s indicated to rate him on the basis of things he did more than 20 years ago. The present time is of importance. He hasn´t broken any rules as far as I know so I see no reason to infract him. His idea of some kind of "Anti-Defamation League for Germanics" is not a bad thing per se. I think we need more people who do something instead of people who only talk. But of course, I would only support action with peaceful means involved - only peaceful means! If violence or hate is involved I´ll be the first one who would cancel the support. And Skadi is not the right place to invoke violence and hate.

    Anyway, I think Mueller Lite is speaking of the situation within the USA primarly?

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    Blacks commit a lot of crimes. Comes with low I.Q. White Nationalists and Racists commit far more crimes than average as well. So are WN "inferior"? Should we kill all WNs because they have declared war on society? The other thing most blacks commit crime on whoever is around them- usually other blacks. The vast majority of blacks do crimes against other blacks. Have they declared war against themselves as well?

    It isn't a "war" it's just stupidity and bad social behavior. It is solved with intelligent social policy, not with more violence and disorder. The article takes data and draws absurd conclusions from it.

    It seems counterproductive when the people who are always supporting all the "good" things about our race are also spewing out hate and violence against other races or who themselves are not acting in an admirable way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    Blacks commit a lot of crimes. Comes with low I.Q.
    Correct. Low cognitive abilities. Also smaller, lighter, and less convoluted brains than white folks. Too bad whites were victims of those black crimes 170 million times in just 30 years, according to the FBI and the largest newspaper in Australia. (1965-95).


    White Nationalists and Racists commit far more crimes than average as well.
    And your corroboration is ?? Btw, what's your definition of "White Nationalist" ??

    So are WN "inferior"?
    Not to African pygmies, I don't think.



    Should we kill all WNs because they have declared war on society?
    Who is "we" ?? And though I don't know of any WNs who've declared war on society, I kinda wish somebody would, in view of what American society has become. Ya know, with the porn, drugs, race-mixing, homos, AIDS, imbicles, minority street gangs, etc., just to name a few societal faults.

    The other thing most blacks commit crime on whoever is around them- usually other blacks.
    True. Too bad 150 million white Americans are forced, by law, to mix with them in schools, universities, work places, and neighborhoods, and are therefore close to blacks much of their lives.

    The vast majority of blacks do crimes against other blacks.
    You might want to rephrase that when you read it again.

    Have they declared war against themselves as well?
    No, it's as you said earlier, because of their low IQs. Remember ??

    It isn't a "war" it's just stupidity and bad social behavior.
    Don't you think it's possible that it could be both ?? I mean tens-of-millions of black on white crimes sure sounds an awful lot like war to me. And you already explained away black peoples' "stupidity and bad social behavior" when you said they have low IQ. Remember ??

    It is solved with intelligent social policy,
    Well then, pray tell us what social policy you'd institute in order to reduce black crime.

    The article takes data and draws absurd conclusions from it.
    Would you kindly tell us what "absurd conclusions" you're talking about.

    It seems counterproductive when the people who are always supporting all the "good" things about our race are also spewing out hate and violence against other races or who themselves are not acting in an admirable way.
    How does one "spew out violence" ?? Perhaps, some of us might like to try it the next time we're violently attacked by, as you said, "low IQ blacks".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueller Lite View Post
    But it won't be the "sole purpose". In addition to defending Germanic peoples against attrocity propaganda, we'll publicise the truth about our great history, heritage, and forefathers, as well as our inventions, scientific discoveries, and overall contributions to the betterment of mankind.
    If this is what you wish to do, go for it. The whole thing about "defending Germanic peoples against atrocity propaganda" and the fact that what you are proposing is a Germanic mirror of the ADL is enough to make me turn the other way. Time is better spent doing positive things than it is "setting the story straight" or demonizing our perceived enemies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mueller Lite
    I've never heard any mainstream media describe the ADL or SPLC as "whiney".
    Well, of course you're never heard the mainstream media say anything like that. However, doesn't their constant whining and complaining piss you off?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mueller Lite
    Hell yes, we oughta complain about being vilified and discriminated against. If we don't nobody else will, that's for sure. Wouldn't you defend yourself in court against vilification by prosecutors ??
    A court of law is quite different from your everyday life. I share my views in a non-confrontational and non-hostile way all the time, and I rarely feel like I'm defending myself. Fostering healthy dialog with non-Germanic groups should be a goal of any pro-Germanic organization. I am very pleased that one of the groups I belong to, the AFA, maintains good relations with a number of Native American tribes. There is something very special about two different peoples of folkish persuasion working towards the same goal.

    Again, if complaining is how you wish to spend your time, that's your business, but I don't see that as a particularly worthwhile pastime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Time is better spent doing positive things than it is *setting the story straight* or demonizing our perceived enemies. [...] I share my views in a non-confrontational and non-hostile way all the time, and I rarely feel like Im defending myself. Fostering healthy dialog with non-Germanic groups should be a goal of any pro-Germanic organization. I am very pleased that one of the groups I belong to, the AFA, maintains good relations with a number of Native American tribes.
    You clearly have a point, imo, BUT: a negative focus, intimidation, moral extortion, aggressive moralism tend to hurt, and pain and excitement seem to affect public subconsciousness more than cosy happy campers gathering around the campfire. Mainstream society is obviously more influenced by more or less irrational sentiments than by rational argumentation.

    What you are suggesting is to vegetate around the campfire, being nice, being a vegetarian. You tend to call this being Germanic, but it sounds more like being a born-again Christian. Anyway, all strategies mentioned so far in this thread exhibit a readiness to play by the rules, to adapt to the hegemonic powers of those who made the rules of the game decades ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vingolf View Post
    What you are suggesting is to vegetate around the campfire, being nice, being a vegetarian. You tend to call this being Germanic, but it sounds more like being a born-again Christian. Anyway, all strategies mentioned so far in this thread exhibit a readiness to play by the rules, to adapt to the hegemonic powers of those who made the rules of the game decades ago.
    What?

    I really can't for the life of me figure out how you got that out of my posts. Perhaps you're just not quite getting what I'm talking about when I say doing positive rather than negative things. Setting up Germanic heritage societies, producing Germanic art, writing books on Germanic subjects, having and raising Germanic children, etc. are all the kinds of things I'm talking about. I don't think that we should necessarily "play be the rules," but rather should do constructive things that set ourselves apart from the society that we have so much disdain for. In the US, most of the Heathen groups have been doing a great job with this and are exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks in part to the efforts of the AFA and the AA, the US is now home to many second (and even a few third) generation Heathens; that is true Germanic preservation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    If this is what you wish to do, go for it. The whole thing about "defending Germanic peoples against atrocity propaganda" and the fact that what you are proposing is a Germanic mirror of the ADL is enough to make me turn the other way. Time is better spent doing positive things than it is "setting the story straight" or demonizing our perceived enemies.
    Not a "Germanic mirror of the ADL". They have an annual budget of tens of millions, thousands of paid employees, and headquarters buildings all over American and the world, plus they are the darlings of the American media and of the U.S. government. We, on the other hand, obviously lack the initiative and guts to publish a pro-German newspaper. Therefore, I'd probably have some difficulty creating a "Germanic mirror of the ADL".



    Well, of course you're never heard the mainstream media say anything like that. However, doesn't their constant whining and complaining piss you off?
    Of course, but unlike you, being pissed makes me want to piss back.



    A court of law is quite different from your everyday life. I share my views in a non-confrontational and non-hostile way all the time, and I rarely feel like I'm defending myself.
    And just what views do you share with others when you're all viewing one of those jewish produced movies about the "holocaust", and they all cry crocodile tears for jews being turned into lampshapes or smoke while they yell hostilities towards those terrible, evil, murderous Germans ?? Don't you feel at least a little bit of hostility ?? A wee bit ?? A tiny tedge even ??

    Fostering healthy dialog with non-Germanic groups should be a goal of any pro-Germanic organization.
    I agree. The Nation of Islam, the Palestinians, the Lebanese, the Jordanians, the Syrians, the Iranians. . . . .etc.

    I am very pleased that one of the groups I belong to, the AFA, maintains good relations with a number of Native American tribes.
    Do you ask them why they never invented a wheel, a plow, a sail, or a written language ?? Or do you apologize for living on their land ??

    There is something very special about two different peoples of folkish persuasion working towards the same goal.
    Yeah, but would you want your daughter to sleep with one of them ?? People working together sometimes wind up doing that, ya know.

    Again, if complaining is how you wish to spend your time, that's your business, but I don't see that as a particularly worthwhile pastime.
    Even rabbits make one single sound of complaint in their lifetimes - when the foxes' teeth clamp down on their necks. Sometimes I have doubts that some white men would even complain then.

    Am I right to assume you won't support The Anti-Defamation League for Germanics ??

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