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    The Polish - Biting The Hand That Feeds

    I previously had quite a good impression of the Polish as a people. Cold, but honest and hard-working. However, since the start of this recession in Britain, it seems many Poles are returning home, but with little dignity:

    - Over-hearing a conversation by the English builders over the road from my home, who had hired a number of Poles for this current project, it turns out that a couple of the Poles had returned home, without warning, taking thousands of pounds money and tools belonging to the English project managers.

    - A local newspaper the other day had a story about thousands of pounds worth of farming machinery going missing. They found it all in Poland.

    - I run a small record label and struck a distribution deal with a company in Poland. I sent about £200 worth of my stock to him a month ago and haven't had a response to any emails since. Word of mouth reveals he has cheated a number of people.


    Anyone else had hugely negative experiences with Poles, particularly since 'the tide has turned' and they appear to be going home?

    What I find amusing about this is that for the past few years, the media and public opinion has treated Poles as though they were more desireable citizens than Brits even, because of their work ethic and law-abiding nature. They've been used as an example of the positive benefits of mass-immigration. I bet all of the cheated builders firms wish they'd stuck with Englishmen now.

    To be honest, I'm disappointed. I always try to give foreign ethnicities the benefit of the doubt, and to avoid generalising.
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    When the German-Polish border was officially downgraded, German Police actually held a mass demo against the de-regulation. They knew what would happen!!! Alas, we are not so well informed it seems! But - look on the bright side , it least it shows that things can still be easily exported from England. Not of course illegal immigrants ...thats a different category.

    I assume they can look around and see what a state of chaos prevails here - with even the government out of its depths. No surprise therefore that they take advantage !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl View Post
    When the German-Polish border was officially downgraded, German Police actually held a mass demo against the de-regulation. They knew what would happen!!! Alas, we are not so well informed it seems! But - look on the bright side , it least it shows that things can still be easily exported from England. Not of course illegal immigrants ...thats a different category.

    I assume they can look around and see what a state of chaos prevails here - with even the government out of its depths. No surprise therefore that they take advantage !!
    Poles are hard workers. I have not found them to be any more dishonest than others. My experiences with the French have been worse.
    I believe that Germany should extend to the Vistula. The Poles are going in the wrong direction!

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    SOME poles are hard workers - and intelligent ones . Agreed! others are clearly crooks.... that seems to be born out by the Police agitation in eastern Germany! lets keep the balance correct then.As for border revisions ..... THATS another matter!!

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    My encounters with Poles have been fine. British employers have a good impression of Poles - compared to the feckless mollycoddled Brits who sometimes emerge from school poorly prepared. The story of middle class England having lost patience with the offspring of the welfare state.

    At the place I used to be employed at, we would ask Polish workers if they had any friends who were also looking for work. Some English lads were fine, but others would make excuse after excuse about why they were late. In the part of the business I worked, we made it clear to the boss that we preferred to supervise Poles rather than employ the riff raff from local estates. Poles would cycle for miles to get to work, then save money over the weeks to buy a car. The Czechs are the same. The English are so short-term orientated. Poland might go that way in a couple of decades, who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anfang View Post
    Poles are hard workers. I have not found them to be any more dishonest than others. My experiences with the French have been worse.
    That's what I previously thought. Unfortunately, it has turned out that I've encountered more dishonest Poles than honest ones, in the light of Britain's current economic situation. They're hardworking and I stand by that, the problem is that they're taking a little bit more in return for their hard work than expected . Maybe they feel entitled after settling for low wages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cythraul View Post
    That's what I previously thought. Unfortunately, it has turned out that I've encountered more dishonest Poles than honest ones, in the light of Britain's current economic situation. They're hardworking and I stand by that, the problem is that they're taking a little bit more in return for their hard work than expected . Maybe they feel entitled after settling for low wages.
    Here there is a huge Polish Community, and they keep it clean and neat. They are mostly hard workers here. On Weekends they get drunk, young ones play bad tecno music, drink and harrass people on the streets near their neighborhood which is aprox 200 city blocks. or 1.3 squre KM or so.

    The good news is that they get so drunk that they cannot fight.

    Comparing the Blacks the Pureto Ricans and the Israelis to the poles,
    the poles are agels.

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    Indeed it is best to look at the reality. OEN, I assume you are not denying the report given in the original post ? Perhaps the crooked one's tend to keep this aspect hidden from the naive and unsuspecting ......

    Otherwise, given the range of immigrants already here....the Poles and Balts are hopefully some of the best. But perhaps not all......... we should not be unrealistic! Just look at some of the other immigrants!! -- and anyway, these are Euros!

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    Yes, maybe they still are some of the best immigrants, despite this. Perhaps I've just been unfortunate in my encounters with them. As always, I prefer to avoid generalising any group of people. But this does prove difficult when objective observation suggests certain traits. And I do pride myself on my ability to be objective and unbiased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cythraul
    Yes, maybe they still are some of the best immigrants, despite this. Perhaps I've just been unfortunate in my encounters with them. As always, I prefer to avoid generalising any group of people. But this does prove difficult when objective observation suggests certain traits. And I do pride myself on my ability to be objective and unbiased.
    Yes. I think we can agree that no matter how well or badly behaved Poles are, the mass immigration waves are very unsettling and unhealthy for cohesive society.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vingolf View Post
    In fact, this kind of assertions are almost pure conjecture. Poles or other Slavs have never been famous for those qualities and virtues mentioned in this thread. The culture of honesty confines itself to the Germanic world and South-East Asia (Japan). The overwhelming majority of cultures preaches that honesty (and workaholism) is wrong, even stupid.
    What is more likely to be "pure conjecture"?

    The personal anecdotes of employers in Western Europe who put their money where their mouth is.

    Or, "Poles or other Slavs have never been famous for those qualities and virtues mentioned in this thread".

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