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    Quote Originally Posted by Vingolf View Post
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    Globalists, Universalists, Political fanatics, etc. all who contribute to the deconstruction of a nation/culture and those also who consider cultural and ethnic preservationism equal with extreme racism and "Aryan superiority".
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    UN: What is the purpose of this organization? World peace? It obviously hasn't accomplished that & if the goal was one-world government it is to disfunctional to ever obtain that status. The US needs to get out of the UN & get the UN out of the US.

    NATO: Outlived it's purpose. Time to disband or at least for the US to withdraw from it.

    EU: It was the longtime dream of many Euro elites to create a "United States of Europe" to counterbalance the United State of America. And as a step towards a one-world state. Should be disbanded. The way it is going the Germans & Turks along with the Danes & Moroccans when end up in a common state. It use to be know as the European Economic Community & then suddenly overnight it became the "European Union" a new supernational state. The sudden fall of the Iron Curtain in late 1989 followed by the creation of the EU a few years later looks very suspicious from a conspiratorial viewpoint.

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    An friend of mine a while ago said that the UN represented 'true internationalism'. He couldn't understand my argument that the UN was the opposite of this, poking its nose into different nation's affairs and kicking them around. Real internationalism is when each nation is allowed to follow its own destiny and keep the world a diverse place with flourishing distinct cultures. NATO, UN etc are the enemies of the people, the enemies of all nations. No geniune nationalist should support them in my view.

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    Disband, withdraw as quickly as possible.

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    The UN is pointless and nosy. Why do they bother even having votes when one of the more powerful nations could just veto it? The League of Nations was scraped, it's time to get rid of this thing also.

    I oppose NATO for allowing US troops to be sent to places that the average American doesen't care about. I would rather see my millitary protecting my borders or assissting people during a natural disaster.

    I probably have an uninformed opinion on the EU ever since I have never been to the continent. This should be scraped also. If I ever go to Europe, I would want to see the various cultures and not some single minded monoculture (called multiculture by elites who support this).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dragonslayer View Post
    [FONT="Century Gothic"]What is your opinion of the United Nations,
    An useless organisation in the begining strongly Stalinist agensts and whose fictional forces I love bombing, nuking, burning, shooting, whatever does the job in the command and conquer games .

    European Union
    ON the level of promoting trade and economic cooperation is was an usefull organisation. However it's evolving in to soft-totaletarian organisation.

    & NATO?
    Should have been disbanded afther the end of the Cold War for other forms of military alliance fitted for the new situation.

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    The UN is just a silly thing that is used for window dressing. No one actually cares about it, and there's usually deadlock. It was obvious that America would go after Iraq with or without approval, and while I strongly disapprove of that decision I also disapprove of the ludicrous notion that a nation-state needs permission to wage war. The UN is made up of dysfunctional third world countries, and so it's policies are usually dysfunctional. It hasn't brought peace and prosperity to Africa, as militias and warlords don't care about such things.

    I took a class on the EU, and it is complex, dysfunctional, and opaque. It would be a nice trade organization as it was intended, but it has fallen like so many other institutions into the trap of bureacratic aggrandizement, increasing in size while serving no real useful concrete purpose, I'm glad it's been stopped from growing...for now. It's also a threat to national border integrity like NAFTA is to America's, but on a greater scale.

    NATO isn't that bad. I think that with Russia rising again and becoming more authoritarian, and other various global threats arising such as Iran, piracy, and rogue state terrorism, that the free nations of the world should have a military pact to deter aggression and facilitate an organized response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morning Wolf View Post
    NATO isn't that bad. I think that with Russia rising again and becoming more authoritarian, and other various global threats arising such as Iran, piracy, and rogue state terrorism, that the free nations of the world should have a military pact to deter aggression and facilitate an organized response.
    I don't think NATO is needed for that. With the pirates, the other countries with forces in the area are India, Russia, Britain and Saudi Arabia, only one of which is in NATO. The other NATO members haven't sent ships to guard against the pirates afaik, maybe they don't even have navies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dragonslayer View Post
    What is your opinion of the United Nations, European Union & NATO? If it was up to you, what would be done with these organizations?
    The UN? Gone! Humanitarian works aside, it serves no useful purpose and is a drain upon the contributor nations. Improved communications across the world have rendered the permanent brick n' mortar meeting place obsolete.
    A better-coordinated alliance of NGOs can pick up the slack for UNICEF or UNESCO. They'd be more efficient & cost effective.

    The United States should definitely leave the UN. We have better uses for our money & manpower right now. If other members wish to continue on, let them set up shop in Geneva or Brussels or Rome.

    The EU? I don't live there, so don't feel that I have any right to say.

    NATO? That's the tricky one. Say what you will, but NATO kept the Soviets from swallowing up the whole of Europe. The Russians cycle between anarchic weakness and savage aggression. They've had their "Weimar" period and are on their way back up again. Their armies will, again, be seen on the Elbe & the Danube.

    Can Europe effectively defend itself against some future Russian (or Islamic) attack? That's not a rhetorical question, btw: I don't know. Revamping NATO? Certainly! Lessening American involvement in that or any successor organisation? Certainly!

    A warning, though: Americans would have NO interest in absorbing any new wave of refugees should some invader overwhelm a pan-Euro defense force.

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    A warning, though: Americans would have NO interest in absorbing any new wave of refugees should some invader overwhelm a pan-Euro defense force.
    You mean America's political elite would have no interest in absorbing any new wave of White European refugees. But brown, black or yellow would be just fine. The more the diversity the better.

    Europe's fall to the Tatar or Islamic forces - not that I'm hoping for it - could be the saving factor for America & the other Eurolands. Massive population transfers of Latinos & Negroes to Latin America or Africa, replaced by Western Europeans who don't want to live under the new order would be much more preferable then the current trend towards the continue browning of America.

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