View Poll Results: To what extent do you scrutinise your entertainment?

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Thread: How Do You Reconcile Your Entertainment with Your Beliefs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer View Post
    Then don't do it. Don't toe an imaginary line which you feel must be tread.

    If you feel that you have to struggle to be true to yourself; then you are not being true to yourself.
    For some of us it's not that simple. A comedian is funny but beats his wife. I like a musician's music, but he's a tax-cheat. A show is entertaining but the lead writer is a militant Zionist. Some people separate the entertainment from the individual, whereas some of us aren't sure whether that separation is acceptable to our morals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm View Post
    For some of us it's not that simple. A comedian is funny but beats his wife. I like a musician's music, but he's a tax-cheat. A show is entertaining but the lead writer is a militant Zionist. Some people separate the entertainment from the individual, whereas some of us aren't sure whether that separation is acceptable to our morals.
    Fair enough. But personally, I would not be so hard upon yourself to deny a joy just because you have a moral which interrupts your appreciation.

    Aslong as you know yourself, then little 'interruptions' should need not put you off.
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    Do You "Censor" Yourself ?

    Do you "censor" yourself ? And with that I mean :
    Once you find out there is miscegenation/multiraciality in a book/film/music/etc... Do you stop enjoying it ?

    Although I do not promote miscegenation/multiraciality , when it comes to music I don't give f*** (although I am a bit eschewed of Africans in Black Metal bands , it just doesn't fit). I'm more sensitive when it comes to films/tv-series , and IMO these films often become a bit s***ty after a time.

    But that doesn't mean every film depicting multiculture is a bad film. Recently , I saw a film from the Netherlands depicting Rotterdam in 1970 , there were a few foreigners in it , but still I thought it was a very nice movie.
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    Entertainment is meant to be fun...


    I like Science Fiction and Fantasy, but some will point out that this is a contradiction. I suppose it is, most shows like Star Trek, and video games such as Mass Effect, are guilty of creating settings which includes alien and cross-racial breeding (In Mass Effect's case, there is not a single Germanic, let alone a Nordid Slavic, left)

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    Excellent topic!

    I'm able to enjoy things where the overall theme or people associated with it have views which contrast my own. The trick is to always keep a part of your mind wary. I can watch a film and consider it pure entertainment, but simultaneously I'll be ensuring that my subconscious is not being influenced. I'm able to identify the hidden subversive themes in anything and as long as I'm aware of it, I can filter it and concentrate on being entertained.

    Though, there are grey areas. Rage Against The Machine - I'm not a fan of theirs but they serve as a good example. I wholeheartedly support some of their conveyed views, whilst wholeheartedly opposing others. I grew up listening to punk-rock and the same thing goes there - the common themes being an aversion to greed, illegitimate war and media propaganda... but also anti-conservatism, multiculturalism and sometimes socialism/communism. I was once fully invested in this set of beliefs but as I got older the conservative, preservationist side of me emerged. Now, rather than oppose bands like RATM, I tend to pity them a little because I know how deceived they are (multiculturalism is actually a tool of the secretly-communist global cartel).

    So, in short, I'm happy to enjoy modes of entertainment whose ideals contrast with my own as long as I'm aware of the fact that we differ. A lot of the rock and metal I listen to is decadent, but as Psychonaut said, it can be considered 'low art'. I tend to differentiate. For example - I'll gladly watch a film or listen to a band which can be considered 'low art', but my books of choice all tend to be 'high art'.

    I am quite outspoken, though, about the idiotic state of TV and music. I watch relatively little TV and vocally belittle things like X Factor and Big Brother, and I never listen to the radio.
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    Do you avoid certain movies/TV-shows because they're immoral (or amoral) for instance?
    Not really. Its more like if I will find a movie/TV show insulting to my intelligence then I will avoid it. There is one example where I found something to be immoral. The TV show The Bachelor where a group of women compete to end up dating this completely superficial man. It was like a mockery and insult to what courtship should be even by modern standards.

    Do you refuse listening to certain bands and singers because their own beliefs conflict with yours?
    With this, yes, I do very much. Music is probably one of the most important things to me in the world. I don't mind terribly if the singer's/band's view is not exactly with mine or if they sing about something I'm neutral about. But basically... Christian metal/rock and "Unblack" metal I can't listen to. It repulses me, especially the latter. Here my beliefs simply cannot go with listening to the promotion and glorification of a belief system I find repulsive.

    Are you completely through with modern entertainment and avoid it altogether?
    Can't avoid it all. Rarely I watch a modern film because frankly the graphics make it stunning and astounding (Avatar, for example). Otherwise, no, I stick to older films. I feel today producers in mainstream films/TV shows reproduce similar ideas in different packages.

    Do you spend time thinking of your own forms of entertainment?
    Yup! I will sound somewhat odd here but so be it. I enjoy running through forests and around mountains listening to bands like Finntroll and imagining fantasy worlds I am apart of. I usually take ciders with me to enjoy. I feel genuinely happy when I'm doing this.

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    I developed good habits at a young age.

    Growing up as a child, I was always in some sort of choir. I think the emphasis on learning the lyrics transferred over to when I was old enough to start listening to mainstream music.

    When I was 8 I bought my first Britney Spears cassette (yes, cassette! ) at Target (if I remember correctly). Within a week I had memorized all the lyrics.

    Since then, I always check the lyrics before I let the song "get into" my head (it was a pain getting that 'Hit Me Baby, One More Time' out, believe me :p)!

    I don't listen to rap, hip-hop, reggae, or R&B and I'm not tempted to - they hurt my ears.

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    I refuse to attend soccer matches nowadays because (apart from being hellishly expensive) a large percentage of the cash goes towards lining the pockets of illiterate negroes.

    As far as music is concerned, I only listen to White music. One of my favourite groups was Dire Straits but then I found out Mark Knopfler was homosexual and it just changed my whole perception of their songs overnight (as it had with Freddie Mercury/Queen some years earlier). It might sound daft because obviously the songs themselves haven't changed but I just can't listen to this stuff in the same light any more. All it needs now is for Jimmy Page to "come out" and I think I'll go and live in a monastery

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    I only watch strongman competition, or programs involving tanks. I have not seen anything yet to bother me.

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    Well, astoundingly enough, I've no desire to live in a f*ck dull little box of mirrors, so when the two intersect, it's entirely incidental. I watch what's interesting and I do what I want. Probably due to my innate superiority.

    Also, my parents recognised that I had a brain in my skull and let me nourish it as I grew up with whatever took my fancy. Nothing was out of bounds for me, or ever will be.
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