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    Stop the pessimism, there's a bright side to this. Barrack was never good political material, he's just an exploiter who took advantage of the masses. He put on a show which was merely an appeal to consensus, it comprised of vague utopian promises and his personal charm, affable smile and clear, authoritative voice, all to distract people from the fact that he was a lousy politician. He will mess up eventually and his blind black adherents will support him regardless of his performance, this could lead to an ethnic divide in the U.S, so if you really care about Germanic preservation in America you should see the potential in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-Alpine View Post
    Stop the pessimism, there's a bright side to this. Barrack was never good political material, he's just an exploiter who took advantage of the masses. He put on show which was merely an appeal to consensus, it comprised of vague utopian promises and his personal charm, affable smile and clear, authoritative voice, all to distract people from the fact that he was a lousy politician. He will mess up eventually and his blind black adherents will support him regardless of his performance, this could lead to an ethnic divide in the U.S, so if you really care about Germanic preservation in America you should see the potential in this.

    Still, not nice being down like this, no matter how short or what it leads to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    I think the real reason Obama won is because he uses physiological weapon words such as '' We can'' ''We can change'' '' Its possible''. Its a sign, symbol leading a charismatic campaigns, so after Sep 11 people were looking for changes such as new hope ,and new version especially the younger generation. But what I know, just a thought.
    maybe but all democratic politicians (and anyone who wants to persuade for that matter) does the same. McCain also stood on 'change'. I think a key difference is Obama being blick, means not only does he give symbolic 'change' words but he himself is a symbol of change, ie of the new multicultural global world (check this out to see what i mean - click on 'view slideshow') vs. the stuffy, old, 'white' world (of which McCain is alsmot a characture). So I think the most important symbol was Obama himself.

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    Don't get me wrong but I think it was all somehow set-up.

    Obama had practically no competition: first, Americans would choose anyone over Hillary, even a 4 year old would do a better job than her.

    Then, McCain was not a good public face, he seemed uncomfortable in his public appearances, too much of a 'country boy' one might say, I believe he lost the media battle altogether.
    And that woman....I believe picking that woman was his suicide! Who would want Sarah Palin as a vice P.? Not even the Republicans, hence McCain lost a good portion of Republican votes by that choice alone.
    I think that should he have picked a more serious V.P. candidate, he would still have chances of winning..
    watching the coverage I kind of got the opposite impression from the above. First I think Hilary was expected to win and I remember seeing it said somewhere that beating her was his most significant/challenging victory. For instance the Labour party here 'cuddled up' to the Clinton's people because she was supposed to win etc. I don't think her ability to lead would have a bearing here, after all a 4 year old could do a similar job to Bush but he got elected twice

    on the second, pretty mcuh all the 'talking heads' said Palin actually did strengthen the core Republican votes, but where she might have cost him is on the 'undecideds' (no uncertain voter would be swung toward the 'redneck barbie' !)

    Quote Originally Posted by Vingolf View Post
    My advice is: Stay cool, do not despair. BHO is the culmination of the Enlightenment version of America, but also its demise. This election was a tribal election in disguise. BHO is clearly a tribal(istic) leader. Germanic/Vinlandic Americans are not likely to identify themselves with this new, post-Germanic, *Obamic* America. Tribalism will be revived and triumph over pseudo-patriotism. Imperialism will be ousted by tribalism. This is a new beginning.
    I mostly agree with this face it guys, 'tonight isn't the night' you can kiss your nation goodbye, the groundwork and process started long, long ago, I'm suprised that someone should see this as 'the beginning of the end' when the end was already began etc. while I can understand it might be psychologically distressing for some americans on here (if McCain won I think that would be more damaging for germanics in the long run but none of this crying woudl be here. Its purely psychological-symbolic... and that's part of why we need this kind of event), I think it is a good thing, the longer the so called 'white establishement' (really not pro-white, but pro-money/power for its own little clique) held on, there was little chance the majority of euro's feeling they could be something different, now we are hopefully moving past that, we can start to build structures that are really 'for us, by us'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuton View Post
    Still, not nice being down like this, no matter how short or what it leads to...
    "Whenever bad things happen, good things will follow" ~ Nichiren

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing View Post

    I feel I have never known a true " White America " not in my lifetime, however. Of course that doesn't exclude what one believes in their own heart.

    And, of course blacks voted for Obama even though he is not truly black.

    I figure they look at him as a Black male as some of us do, but that is not entirely the case. This whole election, most here refer to him as a Black man, where in any other case, it would be a point to clear up his true backings.

    You speak of loyalty towards our own people? Where was the loyalty to us as a Nation? There was none. So, there fore I think that gave good reason for so many whites to vote for Obama. For some, they may of even hated they had to do it, but done it anyhow on a basis of what was more logical, not on racial issues. Which is an idea I do support. Yes, I would rather a empowering white man be up there but there was none.

    I think America chose " maybe something different will happen " not a ni**er

    I agree. Blind race hatred is what makes people think in such terms. Is Obama going to be looking out for black people more than for whites? Yes I think so. But if he stops or at vleast mitigates the control of the Zionist lobby
    in America, if only for the sake of *his* people, he would be helping us more than Maccain would have ever done.
    I do not hate black people. They have no control over me. But when UStelevision and news tells the World that "German Bad, Jews good", everday for 50 years, that is a form of control over me. And Our "White" parlamentarians have done Nothing to stop this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teuton View Post
    Pushed back to Europe? Surely you mean Greater-Turkey!


    We're a failing people.

    OUCH!

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    It is a very strange day here and yes, a bit on the sad side for some of us. In many ways it's not a purely a racial thing but instead, the culmination of a social shift that has been going on for quite a while now (starting in the 60s, I'd reckon).

    For now, the seemingly mindless, MTV/American Idol/urban/hip-hop crowd has crowned their king.

    But, I think Pro-Alpine has the right thinking here:

    Stop the pessimism, there's a bright side to this. Barrack was never good political material, he's just an exploiter who took advantage of the masses. He put on show which was merely an appeal to consensus, it comprised of vague utopian promises and his personal charm, affable smile and clear, authoritative voice, all to distract people from the fact that he was a lousy politician. He will mess up eventually and his blind black adherents will support him regardless of his performance, this could lead to an ethnic divide in the U.S, so if you really care about Germanic preservation in America you should see the potential in this.
    What boggles my mind the most though, is the scary reverence that the Obamatrons seem to have for this guy. I mean shit, he's just a politician not a deity.

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    The results of this election should prove interesting for race relations.President Elect Obama has stated he wants to have a dialogue on race. Currently there's a monologue on race, that is the traditional were still victims of slavery and segregation diatribes of the Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson's. We saw Jesse Jackson and the crowd with tears streaming down his face Obama's selection,
    I don't think those were tears of joy. Maybe I'm cynical but I think those were tears of a guy is just about to lose his job as a professional Negro, or African-American. You can't call a country racist but just to like in a black man as president. It's time to shut down the NAACP. Even the black commentators mentioned it ,no more excuses.

    Now there may be individual acts of racism but they're just as often acts perpetrated by blacks as they are whites. In fact if you look at the crime statistics on a per capita basis a black man is about 50 times more likely to attack a white is vice versa. Now I don't really like the term white what we are really talking about is people of European discent. The criminal element of the black community is more than made up for the victimization of its ancestors might victimizing other races. Our new president proves that there is no great hindering its to anybody of color except for possibly disability or extreme poverty from accomplishing anything he wants or she wants in this country.
    It's time for that small minority of black people maybe 15% of the population to stop expecting the nation to grovel at their feet over alleged racism. The most of your only in virally racist segment of the population in the United States is in the Ghetto. There is no black neighborhoods in the country where a person of European to stand can walk down the street and be safe. The roles have exactly reversed from what they were in the South in the 1950s.
    While it is true that the police do not help perpetuate this as they did in the South, nonetheless rampant racial hatred by a segment of the African-American population goes on unabated. The media never covers this because people in the media who are white are educated and live far away from areas where they might encounter these thugs. There is a media bias against the Conservatives it simply comes from the fact that is a higher rate of liberals among college-educated whites than there are of conservatives. Many of these people become conservatives in their old age but once you get close to 60 your toast in the media.

    I think it's very disturbing that people of European background have been taught that they are white as if their ancestors had no culture or there was some place called white land where they all speak whitish. I feel sorry for people who don't know anything about their culture and where they came from. In America we condition our children to be consumers not citizens, therefore the vast majority of young people are incapable of critical thinking.
    The political campaign was a perfect example of it all those herds of mindless conservatives, with their chantts and slogans, and the wildly enthusiastic jumping up and down crowds of Obama supporters. Well emotions are fine but they have nothing to do with logic or citizenship. The fact remains that this is a corporate plutocracy and will remain such. When Washington feared a nation completely entangled in foreign alliances, and what Jefferson feared a huge powerful juggernaut of the federal government is what we are. Well as HL Mencken said" no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people".

    I was amused by this slavish groveling before the Israeli lobby, you'd think they were running for the president of Israel rather than United States. We have over 1000 military bases of which about 90% are near presences across the world. Our new president is going to be just as interventionist and internationalist as the old president.
    I'm afraid we will get involved in all sorts of nonsense and Africa, and frankly I don't give a damn about Africa. I feel sorry for the individual people in it but it is by very nature incapable of maintaining European-style civilizations where democracy can prevail.

    The Republican Party is dead unless he wakes up and smells the roses people of European descent are not going to be the majority in this country. Secondly, total laissez-faire capitalism always ends up with monopolies and economic predation. Capitalist medicine always put capital before the well-being of citizens is failed. I believe are going to have some sort of national health care system I would prefer that it looks like the German model which is not socialistic but does heavily regulate the insurance industry. It has everything and more in our system does at half the price there are no long waits for doctors or emergency procedures like transplants.

    I don't know what to say about that small segment of the ultraconservative who want to basically impose a theocracy upon the United States. It's never going to happen unless somehow secession is possible. Otherwise you're stuck with diversity of religious thought in the separation of church and state.
    You have to wonder what the Reverend Jeremiah Wright is thinking. He just found himself in the same row boat with Jesse Jackson without orders being carried down current into historical irrelevancy.
    You notice that those people were on stage were limited to family members I don't think any of those Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson's and will get within 100 yards of the President elect.

    America is a multiple racial soceity too late to change it .Have to defend Europe if that is your cause. Tihs guy was raised by whites?Euro's and thinks like white/Euros.he uses Blacks as pawns for power,just like any good Machievelian Prince. Now he is President he will jettison them. watch them scream.
    Mccain was going senile and the guy was mainly alegend with not much substance to him. MY fellow Prisoners,lungin about aimlessly he was terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro-Alpine View Post
    "Whenever bad things happen, good things will follow" ~ Nichiren
    There's some solace to be found in the notion.

    "This too shall pass" and "the night is darkest before the dawn" are two of my favorite phrases.






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    I see it as gravity.

    You swing around the moon on your space-ship and you gain speed and shoot away(Good.). But if you come too close, the gravity pulls you in and you crash(Bad.).


    Too much will cause demise, though a little could be helpful at giving a little taste and helping us rebuild ourselves.

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    I too think it is too early to despair. If he ***s up (and most likely, he will), America will learn a valuable lesson, for generations to come.

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