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Thread: Obama and the Difficulty of Taxonomy in Racial Hybrids

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    Halle Berry & Lonetta McKee played Mulatto women passing as White in "Queen". It was pretty ridiculous as no one in America would mistake them as anything other then Black, though obviously with a large degree of Europid admixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd

    [PS: I'm sick and tired of having to post pictures of African-American celebrities... I do hope I won't have to do it much more often to make a point... ]
    Who'd have thought that we'd all be siting around google searching images of black Americans trying to see who can find the whitest? (Albinos not included.)

    How about singers?

    I'll submit:

    Mariah Carey




    and Amanda Marshall



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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post


    I posted Suzanne Malveaux awhile back. She is the daughter of a Black Creole from Lousiana & a White mother. She fooled Agrippa.
    I was watching CNN and she was like "as a Black American"

    And I was like " "

    I assumed she was Southern French (kind ofl ike Southern Italians.... Europeanized Med/Northern African) and I never heard her once call herself black other than that one time.

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    Since the thread is supposed to be about the "difficulty of taxonomy", I just wanted to comment my thoughts on why it is so difficult and always will be.

    The problem with mixed races is that there is way too much variation to be able to ever classify them properly. They may display traits of each racial type individually, or traits which combine together to form unique features. When it comes to white and black mixes, for example, consider how much variation exists within each race as a whole. Now combine various sub-racial types from with the two races, and the potential results are endless. There will never exist any sort of stabilized blend at any point in the future because of how numerous the potential recombinations would be. It would be different if two groups were each homogenous and isolated. It isn't like we are only talking about nordid's mixing with khoisans. If that occured there would be a limited number of combinations that could occur, and eventually certain traits would begin to emerge in the offspring. Instead, we see all sub-racial types mixing, which produces offspring that are all vastly different from each other and thus not classifiable by any present means. We could say that one displays traits which are nordid, but this does not indicate that the individual is nordid in any way, shape, or form. Simply they have traits which are such because they were inherited by one parent without being altered by the other parent's genetic material.

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    Those examples with Negroid admixture all have coarse hair and surely with a reduced head/brain size. Western Europeans usually have denser, finer hair and Easterners have thicker (coarser, larger diameter) hair. Easterners seem to have straighter hair in my opinion while some Westerners have a tendency toward waviness.

    Unaesthetic coarse hair of Condoleezza Rice thanks to Sigurd for mentioning it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post


    I posted Suzanne Malveaux awhile back. She is the daughter of a Black Creole from Lousiana & a White mother. She fooled Agrippa.
    From that one picture alone, the excessively large teeth (for the face) and the hair stick out the most and then the nostril shape. She has blue/hazel eyes which racially mixed people can acquire.

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    Sums it all up....

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