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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    Okay...Nordic/Nordish means Norse or Norwegian. Don't give me this f*cking crap about how it's some irrespective subrace type. I am Nordic because I have Norwegian blood. Take it as f*cking simple as that, ok? All of you usurpers with the addlebrained ideologies.
    Nordic means something. Unlike Germanic, which just refers to our language, Nordic refers to our tribe. The word "Nordid" however means absolutely nothing. it's all nonsense on both a scientific and linguistic level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    I wonder how many people use haplogroup and phenotype as the basis of some fantasy RPG, like astrology and numerology. Let's all cast lots and read entrails. Those are Germanic traditions, after all.
    A source that claims that some Germanic ancestors had cast lots
    is Gaius Julius Caesar "De bello Gallico" Paragraph 50

    Translated :
    that at the Germanics the habit rules,
    that their Familymothers through Lotterysticks and Directionalsages uttering do,
    if it of advance be, a Slaughter(battle) to deliver or not;
    these speeking following;
    it is not godly Right ( will of gods ),
    that the Germans win, when they self before the Newmoon in a Fight incorporate.
    daß bei den Germanen der Brauch herrsche,
    daß ihre Familienmütter durch Losstäbchen und Weissagungen kund täten,
    ob es von Vorteil sei, eine Schlacht zu liefern oder nicht;
    diese sprächen folgendermaßen;
    es sei nicht göttliches Recht (der Wille der Götter),
    daß die Germanen siegten, wenn sie sich vor dem Neumonds in einen Kampf einließen.
    https://asatru-forum.de/index.php?th...-bello-gallico

    Meaning war had been forbidden each second half of a month.

    Otherwise I would not have any source of Germanics being incolved in
    witchcraft .. :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigebrond View Post
    It's baseless pseudoscience, completely contradicted by biology, genetics, what we know about migration movements and anthropologists who are far more competent in their field than the likes of Conrad Coon. I feel embarrassed on behalf of anyone dumb enough to take phenotypes seriously. Slavic peoples have pretty distinct traits as do Finnic peoples but that is pretty much it.
    It's more sensible to guess ethnic background, like accent and dialect, directly from living populations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigebrond View Post
    Nordic means something. Unlike Germanic, which just refers to our language, Nordic refers to our tribe. The word "Nordid" however means absolutely nothing. it's all nonsense on both a scientific and linguistic level.
    On the contrary, language families are consistently reliable. I think writing scripts, however, are seriously undervalued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall View Post
    It's more sensible to guess ethnic background, like accent and dialect, directly from living populations.



    On the contrary, language families are consistently reliable. I think writing scripts, however, are seriously undervalued.
    Language families mean very little, Celtic peoples are far more different linguistically from Germanic speakers than they are ethnically, many Germanic people are part-Celtic anyway, and vice versa. The same applies to Germanic people of part-Slavic descent, and Slavic people (e.g. Ukrainians) with some Germanic ancestry. There also populations in Southern Europe that are more complicated, such as Northern Italy, Romania and Macedonia (Romanian being a romance language doesn't reveal anything much about Romania's population, which is still primarily Dacian in ancestry). On top of this, Scythians, Sarmatians, Thracians etc contributed a lot to the Eastern European gene pool (and languages to some degree), something also not taken into account when relating them to their Slavic languages.

    Scripts are fairly meaningless as well unless you're going for the pan-European narrative (not a bad idea), some alphabets are relatively "new", such as early Slavic alphebets, and they are generally based on Greek anyway. The older ones such as futhark are based on a mixture of Greek, Latin and Etruscan. Ultimately all European writing stems back to Ancient Egypt (almost certainly European culturally and in its nobility at least) via Phoenician.

    You can just use common sense and look at Europeans. We all share the same origins more or less, in Northern and Eastern Europe. What matters if whether their features, complexion etc are European. You can expect Europeans to differ from person to person in equally European facial features - it says absolutely nothing about their ancestry. There has been so much migration back and forth across Europe since prehistoric times that we all inherit a mixture of different phenotypes. Like I said, the ridiculous pseudoscience is contradicted by actual science, archaeology and anthropology, and basic common sense.

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    Steeped in post-modern cultural deconstructionism, in which Germanic means nothing to you, what's your point registering here? Like Aelfgar, it seems you have trouble squaring the circle when it comes to Celtic ancestry as an Englishman. If only the Nazi apologists would not goose-step with hypocritical rhetoric aimed at revising the reality of Germanic English heritage, considering the fact that Bavaria is as Celtic as Scotland. In their minds, only the Axis Powers are legitimate representatives of any and all things Germanic, even though the Nazis invaded and/or occupied Germanic countries more than any other and tried to rule in the names of the weak under the guise of Social Darwinism. God forbid Irish and "Asiatic" Finns be included in the same Germanic group as Mediterranean Belgians and Swiss. But hey, who are we to challenge associates of Mussolini and Hirohito?

    They proudly strut around as puppets of Italy and call themselves the only uncompromised Germanics, that everyone else is tainted by the eternal Jew. The truth is, that's bluster for misdirection, so nobody calls them out for it--Simon Peter was chief Apostle to Jewish Christians, unlike Saul Paul, who taught the Celts to disavow and repudiate Moses and all his laws. More Continental cities are known for their Jewry than elsewhere. Apart from Disraeli or the Marx and Rothschild transplants from Germany to London, all the famous Jews also hail from there. Vienna is pretty kosher. I wouldn't get worked up over their Anglophobia to self-loathing, because it predates the 20th century, through severe Jesuitical brainwashing. It remains omnipresent even through the fake Voelkische movement pulled out of List's arse.

    Just think of how Prussia was a Baltic country, which means that half of Germany was an assimilated Baltic society, by extension, whilst this establishment supposedly stands for the ultimate Germanic culture. It's unclear how propagandists could hold their world in higher esteem than England and try to write us off as inconsequential, except for being sore losers in the 20th century and never living it down, conjuring conspiracies to defraud everyone regarding the English relationship with Europe. The Saxon heritage in Europe is endangered by Alpine supremacists, just like how Frisians are fading from memory because of Rhenish depredations. We're too Protestant for the Austrians and too Catholic for the Prussians, so we must be Jewish? Can't please schizophrenic people...A capitalist nation of shopkeepers becomes a nation of evil Jews in the way of East Berlin subversives.

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