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    Gotneska

    Fornt, ÷Ýsturgjermanst ma˙l, tala■ af Gotum sem eÝdna
    mest kva■ a■ me­al gjermanskra ■jˇ­a Ý forn÷ld. Um upphaf Gota er
    ekki vita■ en lÝklegt er tali■ a■ ■eÝr havi flust snemma a˙ 1. ÷ld e.Kr.
    fra˙ SvÝ■jo˙■ (■ar heÝtir enn G÷Ýtland och Gotland) ivir EÝstrasalt til
    svaÝ­isins vi■ Visluo˙sa Ý Po˙llandi och sÝ­ar, lÝklega seÝnht a˙ 2. ÷ld lengra
    su­ur, allt a■ Svartahavi. Stofnu­u ■eÝr rÝki sem mun hava na˙■ allt fra˙
    EÝstrasalti til Svartahafs a˙ 4.÷ld. Ůa■ hrundi 375 ■egar H˙nar rje­ust
    inn Ý Evro˙pu. Gotar h÷v­u a˙­ur greÝnst Ý tvenht: ÍÝstgota och Vestgota.
    Er rÝki Gota kjenht vi■ ■a˙ firrnemdu en Vestgotar hjeldu su­ur a˙
    bo˙jinn och bjuggu um 300 ■ar sem n˙ er R˙menÝa. ŮeÝr fl˙­u undan
    H˙num 376 ivir Do˙na˙ inn a˙ ro˙mverst ivirra˙­asvaÝ­i, b÷r­ust vi■
    Ro˙mverja, herju­u a˙ Balkanskaga och ═talÝu, to˙ku Ro˙m 410, hjeldu
    sÝ­an til GallÝu och Sba˙nar och sdobnu­u ■ar rÝki sem hrundu vi■ innra˙s
    Araba 711. Af ÍÝstgotum er ■a■ a■ seÝja a■ efdir a■ rÝki ■eÝrra
    li­a­ist sundur vi■ innra˙s H˙na fluttust ■eÝr vestur a˙ bo˙jinn til
    Do˙na˙rlanda, voru ■ar um skjeÝ■ undirgjefnir H˙num en na˙­u sja˙lfstaÝ­i
    efdir la˙t Attilu H˙nakonungs 453. Undur foristu Ůjo˙­reks hins mikla
    unnu ■eÝr ═talÝu 489-493 och sdobnu­u miki■ rÝki sem na˙­i ivir
    ■÷Ý l÷nd sem n˙ er V-J˙go˙slavÝa och V-┌ngverjaland, mikinn hluta
    ÍÝsturrÝkis och Sviss och Provence Ý Frakklandi ÷Ýk ═talÝu. Ůetta sÝ­ara
    rÝki ÍÝstgota leÝ■ undir lok 553 efdir o˙sigur ■eÝrra firir bÝsanska
    rÝkinu. Efdir ■etta renna Gotar sma˙m saman inn Ý a­rar ■jo˙­ir och
    taka upp ■eÝrra ma˙l. Ůo˙ vir­ist ■jo˙­arbrot Gota hava haldist fram
    efdir ÷ldum a˙ KrÝmskaga och eru heÝmildir um ma˙l ■eirra efdir mi­ja
    16. ÷ld er flaÝmskur ma­ur, Ogier Ghiselin von Busbecq, skriva­i hja˙ sjer
    um hundra■ or■ ˙r krÝmgotnesku och birti 1589.

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    ef manni langar a■ heÝra hvernich ■etta ma˙l hljo˙ma­i og slaÝr ■a■ innÝ
    youtube faÝr ma­ur bara fa˙ra˙nlega dr÷Ýgamenningu. jeg man a­ ■a■ var lesin
    up texti af ■essu Ý gjettu betur um mjer fannst ■a■ lÝkt Ýslensku och gjiska­i jafnvel
    faÝreÝsku. miki■ af ■odnendingum och svona. sa˙ sem rita­i Ýslensku or■sivjabo˙kina kjendi ■etta ma˙l og gat ■vÝ
    haldi■ uppi samraÝ­um a˙ ■vÝ en avgangrinn af tekstanum kjemur eÝnhverntÝman.

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    Gotneska, na˙nar tilteki■ ma˙lÝska Vestgota a˙ 4.÷ld, er ■a■
    forngjermanst ma˙l sem best er ■echt. Hevur ma˙l ■etta var­veÝst Ý
    handritum skra˙­um a˙ ═talÝu um 500 me■ ■Ý­ingum a˙ verulegum
    hluta hins NÝa testamentis. Merkast ■essara handrita, SilvurbibÝan
    svonemda, Codex argenteus, er gjeimt Ý ha˙sko˙labo˙kasabninu Ý
    Upps÷lum. A­eÝns r˙mlega helmingur ■ess hevur var­veÝst e­a 177 bl÷■ af 330.
    Upphavlega hava ■ar veri■ skra˙■ gvu­spj÷dlin fj÷gur. ═ ÷­rum
    handritabrotum er me­al annars a■ finna ■Ý­ingarbrot ˙r brjevum
    Pa˙ls postula. Handrit ■essi eru ■o˙ ekki samtÝmarit ■Ý­inganna, vita■
    er me■ vissu a■ ■aÝr eru fra˙ fjo˙r­u ÷ld och a■ ■Ý­andinn var Wulfila,
    biskup och postuli Vestgota. Wulfila ■essi er talin faÝdur um 311,
    voru foreldrar hans frß Kappado˙kÝu Ý Litlu-AsÝu en h÷v­u veri■
    herteknir af Gotum. Vita■ er a■ 332 er hann Ý sendinemd a˙ vegum Gota
    Ý KonstantÝnno˙pel ■ar sem hann dvaldist 9 a˙r. Hann var vÝg­ur
    til biskups me­al Gota nor­an do˙na˙r 341 en um ■aÝr mundir var
    unni■ a■ ■vÝ a■ sn˙a Gotum til Kristni och var Wulfila ■ar forg÷nguma­ur.
    Hevur ■a■ veri■ honum kappsma˙l a■ sn˙a ritningunni ivir a˙ Gotnesku.
    GrÝski kjirkjusagnaritarinn Sˇkrates segir hann sja˙lvan hava fundi■ up
    stavro˙f Ý ■eÝm tilgangi en er ■a■ ■o˙ bichd a˙ grÝsku stafro˙vi och
    enfremur ma˙ ■ar finna latneska stavi och stavi ˙r r˙naletri Gjermana.
    LÝklegast endist honum ekki aÝvi til a■ lj˙ka ■Ý­ingu adlrar biblÝunnar.

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    I struggle with your lovely Norsk spraak, and am thoroughly lost with Islandisk
    (or Norse).

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    Gotneska er sjerstaklega a˙hugaver■ fra˙ sjo˙narmi­i gjermanskrar
    samanbur­arma˙lfraÝ­i ■ar sem gotnesku biblÝutekstardnir eru ■rem til
    fjo˙rum ÷ldum eldri en rita­ir tekstar annara forngjermanskra ma˙la
    a■ undasnkjildum fa˙eÝnum r˙naristum a˙ frumnoraÝnu. H˙n hevur ■vÝ
    Ýmis fornleg eÝnkjenni sem h÷v­u naÝr e­a alvech horvi■ ˙r ÷­rum
    gjerm÷nskum ma˙lum ■egar ■÷Ý voru first faÝr■ Ý letur. Ma˙ ■ar nebna
    o˙samsetta ■olmind, tvÝt÷lu og svonemdar tv÷f÷ldunarsagnir.
    Jabnframt sÝnir gotneskan margar breÝtingar fra˙ frumgjerm÷nsku.
    Til daÝmis brotfadl stutra sjerhljo˙­a Ý lokasamst÷vum:
    frg.nf hlaibaz ■f. hlaiban > gotn. hlaifs, hlaif, br÷Ý­hleÝvur;
    frg. nf. stadiz, ■f stadan> gotn. sta■s, sta■, sta­ur samanber ■Ýska stadt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koos de la Rey
    I struggle with your lovely Norsk spraak, and am thoroughly lost with Islandisk
    (or Norse).
    This is a text about the east-germanic language Gothic and a little about their history along with it. It was written with the Greek alphabet mixed only slighly with latin and runes.

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    ┴bendingarforn÷fnin sa, su, ■ata, (sa˙, s˙, ■etta) gjegna hlutverki a˙kve­ins greÝnis.

    aflÚtanda ■us frawa˙rhteis ■eino˙s
    sindir ■Ýnar eru ■jer firirgjefnar

    TÝ­ir eru tvaÝr o˙samsettar n˙tÝ■ och ■a˙tÝ■ lÝcht och Ý ÷­rum gjerm÷nskum ma˙lum fornum sem nÝum.

    og n˙ vantar bara hljˇ­daÝmi og mind af ritma˙linu

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