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    Race, or

    Nation, or

    Sub-Race?
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    I voted: 1.Race, 2.Nation, 3.Subrace. As I can see, four other people have thought the same way.

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    I took a new option which is:

    My sub race is my entity and therefore containing my real Nation also. its my archetypical Spiritual bounded people. all other things come next to my Sub race. Nation is therefore irrelevant in this pursuit and Race well how do you define race? Negro, Asian, Casusien? That's primitive.

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    My choice was: Race, Nation, Sub race.
    I can imagine the life with other White nations and sub races, but I can't imagine the life amongst individuals of any other race than White/Caucasian.

    Nation which is cultural and spiritual element I favor before the sub race out of the simple reason - It is more easy to adapt your self to the commune life amongst the members of your own nation regardless to which sub -race they belong than to individuals of the same sub race but completely different cultural background.

    I look more like the Southern European than Nordic, but its most likely that I would mate with the Nordic member of my Polish nation than with someone from South Europe with whom I share nothing except the same sub race.
    We would (not necessarily)not fit together because of the different language, cultural background, mentality and costumes. And the fact that we both have the same dark hair would not make much difference.

    Here is even better example; What do you think with whom would some ideal Nordic nationalist German mate with first; with some darker type from southern Germany (which you also call "Untermansh") or with the Blond Hallstatt from Poland?

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    Originally posted by Hermod

    My choice was: Race, Nation, Sub race.
    I can imagine the life with other White nations and sub races, but I can't imagine the life amongst individuals of any other race than White/Caucasian.
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    I know but In my opinon it would still be atleast Sub-Race before Nation. Maybe its because your mixed you feel this way?
    I cant imagine Life with only Meds or Alpines For that sake.
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    Nation which is cultural and spiritual element I favor before the sub race out of the simple reason - It is more easy to adapt your self to the commune life amongst the members of your own nation regardless to which sub -race they belong than to individuals of the same sub race but completely different cultural background.
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    Hmm im not sure I understand this the way you want me too?
    Im not sure if I agree.
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    I look more like the Southern European than Nordic,
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    Hard to say, perhaps in-between.
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    but its most likely that I would mate with the Nordic member of my Polish nation than with someone from South Europe with whom I share nothing except the same sub race.
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    but what you are saying now is that you are a minority in your own country or total isolated from other species looking like you?
    Sorry that does not make sense, and it certainly not justify why you have to mate a Nordic girl. im not condemning you just trying to cast some light on the whole deal.

    If I was living in a country with no one of my subtype and I was adopted to another Nations costumes, I would still go back to my people because only their costumes is my custumes, you make it sound so faceless is my opinion. it could almost make me wonder about your reasons for even staying with Cacasius and not lets says Asians?
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    We would (not necessarily)not fit together because of the different language, cultural background, mentality and costumes. And the fact that we both have the same dark hair would not make much difference.
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    Hair is not everything. who cares if you fit together because of some brain-dead society, what about your own individuality. I choose any girl I want and any girl worthy is mine. I do not care what kind of corrupted limbonic yard she grew up in.
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    Here is even better example; What do you think with whom would some ideal Nordic nationalist German mate with first; with some darker type from southern Germany (which you also call "Untermansh") or with the Blond Hallstatt from Poland?
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    I dont call anyone Untermensch, and I doubt many people do.
    Well first of all you just say Nordic German Nationalist, who said he was Hallstatt? like the supposedly coming wife in Poland, well no one did, lets assume that's what you meant. Well why should he choose over Nation instead of sub-type? that would make no sense to me, there are all kinds of scums being called citizens in almighty countries. so please now you know why Sub-type is most important and not Nationhood (even though its symbiotic but yet repressed in concentrations of many fluctuated subtypes). I would also like to say that Love is not always so godamn easy and im not to say whose best for him. but the best would be if he took the one assimilating his own Characteristics.

    Hermod Thanks for making the post. you seem like a thoughtful young man.
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    >>>>>>>Maybe its because your mixed you feel this way?

    Perhaps, but also because I'm a Nationalist of my country.

    >>>>>>>I cant imagine Life with only Meds or Alpines For that sake.

    Me also, I live in the area with a variety of White types and I doubt I would feel comfortable amongst pure mediterranians of South Italy or amongst pure Norwegians.

    >>>>>>>but what you are saying now is that you are a minority in your own country or total isolated from other species looking like you?

    In a hypothetical situation.

    >>>>>>>Sorry that does not make sense, and it certainly not justify why you have to mate a Nordic girl. im not condemning you just trying to cast some light on the whole deal.

    lol You insinuate that I suffer from a subconsciously desire for a Nordic females! Hahahaha Well I do favor girls with the lighter complexion but not necessary Nordic or even blond.

    >>>>>>>If I was living in a country with no one of my subtype and I was adopted to another Nations costumes, I would still go back to my people because only their costumes is my custumes.

    Lets say that you was adopted in Lombardy. You can find members of your sub race there in relatively fine number, but are the costumes of Northern Italy the same like the costumes of Iceland? No. Are Italians generally similar in culture with Icelanders? No. Some Italian can have a Nordic in flesh and blood, but shall his mentality also be Nordic, or shall he act like all the other Italians with which he share the same environment, education, language, folklore ect.

    Don't get me wrong, I do care about the sub races, and specially for their preservation, but there are also a "mental sub races" that does not always fit with the physical sub races. Just like our mind is not always in harmony with our body.
    Nations are social expressions of that "mental sub races"

    >>>>>>>>Hermod Thanks for making the post. you seem like a thoughtful young man.

    Thank you for a most interesting debate

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    I voted the first options because I am a Racialist and not a Nationalist in the first place, so Race is more important than Nation to me. Another reason are the characteristics of the Nation which I live in which alienate me from this Nation. I live amongst people who in their majority are not of my Race and therefore this Nation does not reflect my Racial Identity, therefore from the Racialist perspective my Nation is not important to me, because it is barely mine in Racialist terms.

    Any Racialist living in a Racially heterogeneous Nation (if it can be called a Nation) should vote in my opinion Race, Subrace, Nation or Subrace, Race, Nation. On the other hand any Racialist who lives in a Society whose National Identity is traditionally Racially homogeneous should in my opinion vote Nation, Race, Subrace or Nation, Subrace, Race, for the reason that in his Society his Race is his Nation. It all depends on the Racial Characteristics of one's National Society and one's Racialist and/or Nationalist views.

    This is an interesting thread.

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    Originally posted by Nazzjonalist
    I voted the first options because I am a Racialist and not a Nationalist in the first place, so Race is more important than Nation to me. Another reason are the characteristics of the Nation which I live in which alienate me from this Nation. I live amongst people who in their majority are not of my Race and therefore this Nation does not reflect my Racial Identity, therefore from the Racialist perspective my Nation is not important to me, because it is barely mine in Racialist terms.

    Any Racialist living in a Racially heterogeneous Nation (if it can be called a Nation) should vote in my opinion Race, Subrace, Nation or Subrace, Race, Nation. On the other hand any Racialist who lives in a Society whose National Identity is traditionally Racially homogeneous should in my opinion vote Nation, Race, Subrace or Nation, Subrace, Race, for the reason that in his Society his Race is his Nation. It all depends on the Racial Characteristics of one's National Society and one's Racialist and/or Nationalist views.

    This is an interesting thread.

    Yes, it sounds logical. If I was a member of some largely racially mixed nation like USA or Australia I would also put my Race and sub-race on the first place and ignore my Nationality However I'm not aware of such countries in Southern Europe in which the European genotype is in such oppressed minority except in Istanbul-Turkey or Albania.
    May I ask where are you from?

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    In the truest sense of the word, I see "nation" so intimately bound up with "race" that ranking one against the other makes no sense to me.
    I put sub-race over race because the race can exist without the sub-race, but the sub-race cannot exist without the race. By fighting to preserve your sub-race, you are also fighting to preserve your general race by default.

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    Originally posted by Nazzjonalist
    I voted the first options because I am a Racialist and not a Nationalist in the first place, so Race is more important than Nation to me. Another reason are the characteristics of the Nation which I live in which alienate me from this Nation. I live amongst people who in their majority are not of my Race and therefore this Nation does not reflect my Racial Identity, therefore from the Racialist perspective my Nation is not important to me, because it is barely mine in Racialist terms.
    I have to agree. I feel the blood of my ancestors and I follow their ways, this country I live completely goes against my very nature, so I do not feel a genuine part of all this selfishness, laziness, and unworthyness. For this reason I have always prefered men from Northern Europe, since they don't seem to be infected with this American degeneracy.

    The biggest problem for the nordish race is that many in Europe would choose someone completely different in race or sub-race from their country, over someone from a different country who is the same sub-race as them. And then americans have a total lack of regard as to either of the two and wish only for a woman (they don't care what color, race, or even if their face is pretty) who lives close (how convenient!) with huge fake boobs and who shared their love of football, fast food, pop culture, beer, and drugs..........

    American culture - if you can call it that - seriously makes me ill. x_barf
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