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    Post Racial Character of the IE Groups = Nordic?

    True, there is much disagreement about the racial character of the IE groups.

    The most constant factor in racial studies is the lack of physical confidence felt by those of Nordic race in Europe. Because of this, many more Nordids go searching for their origins, the source of their weakness, and the field is saturated with their presence.

    This environment then allows for those of Nordic descent to claim virtually anything they wish, however absurd and illogical it may be, relying on their majority in the field to make it fact.

    Thus, the great achievements of history and prehistory at one time or another all are claimed for the Nordic race.

    UP survivors, being the ultimate source of Nordic insecurity, are made insignificant in the literature. The traditional rulers of Europe, with their massive bodies and massive brains, still constitute the bulk of its aristocracy. However, the Nordids in the field of racial studies, being of generally lower to middle class backgroud, have virtually no contact with their former rulers in the modern world.

    The only UP survivors Nordids regularly deal with as populations are those of the more rural and peripheral areas, where their lack of attachment to the urban economy makes them seem rather overly masculine, from the urban point of view the same as uncultivated, therefore peasant-like.

    But strangely enough, the modern worlds of government and business and industry are dominated by UP survivors, and these have to some extent come to replace the old world of the warrior aristocracies. People of Nordic race have regualr contact with these new aristocracies, but ignore their existence in the literature, it being something which they can do absolutely nothing about, besides hurt a few feelings here and there.

    The truth would seem to be that the Nordic race has always been, since its entry into Europe, always of lower to middle class, discounting the courtier phenomenon of course. But it does what it can as a group to get by, even if that means practicing the various tones of voice and motions of disdain for a living as courtiers.

    What might we say about the IE populations with all of this in mind?

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    Post Re: IE = Nordic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett
    True, there is much disagreement about the racial character of the IE groups.

    The most constant factor in racial studies is the lack of physical confidence felt by those of Nordic race in Europe. Because of this, many more Nordids go searching for their origins, the source of their weakness, and the field is saturated with their presence.

    This environment then allows for those of Nordic descent to claim virtually anything they wish, however absurd and illogical it may be, relying on their majority in the field to make it fact.

    Thus, the great achievements of history and prehistory at one time or another all are claimed for the Nordic race.

    UP survivors, being the ultimate source of Nordic insecurity, are made insignificant in the literature. The traditional rulers of Europe, with their massive bodies and massive brains, still constitute the bulk of its aristocracy. However, the Nordids in the field of racial studies, being of generally lower to middle class backgroud, have virtually no contact with their former rulers in the modern world.

    The only UP survivors Nordids regularly deal with as populations are those of the more rural and peripheral areas, where their lack of attachment to the urban economy makes them seem rather overly masculine, from the urban point of view the same as uncultivated, therefore peasant-like.

    But strangely enough, the modern worlds of government and business and industry are dominated by UP survivors, and these have to some extent come to replace the old world of the warrior aristocracies. People of Nordic race have regualr contact with these new aristocracies, but ignore their existence in the literature, it being something which they can do absolutely nothing about, besides hurt a few feelings here and there.

    The truth would seem to be that the Nordic race has always been, since its entry into Europe, always of lower to middle class, discounting the courtier phenomenon of course. But it does what it can as a group to get by, even if that means practicing the various tones of voice and motions of disdain for a living as courtiers.

    What might we say about the IE populations with all of this in mind?
    It's only natural that the world of government/industry is dominated by UP's as this type is far more prolific even in Northern Europe where Nordids are found in the highest concentrations.

    IE populations were said to have given rise to the Nordic phenotype. The evidence suggests a Nordic is nothing more than a reduced UP. A mix of a gracile Western Asian type with more robust UP types.

    What great achievements of history and prehistory are you talking about?
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    Post Re: IE = Nordic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    IE populations were said to have given rise to the Nordic phenotype. The evidence suggests a Nordic is nothing more than a reduced UP. A mix of a gracile Western Asian type with more robust UP types.
    Nordid stands closer to the mediterranid than to the UP/cromagnoid races. At least if we don't speak about pigmentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TseBbe
    Nordid stands closer to the mediterranid than to the UP/cromagnoid races. At least if we don't speak about pigmentation.
    This is true objectively speaking. Especially the "Atlantid" variant-type of the Mediterranid family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TseBbe
    Nordid stands closer to the mediterranid than to the UP/cromagnoid races. At least if we don't speak about pigmentation.
    Lundman's Scandid is closer to Cro-Magnid than it is to Mediterranid.






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    Post Re: IE = Nordic?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
    Lundman's Scandid is closer to Cro-Magnid than it is to Mediterranid.
    Well, i am no expert on the whole psychical anthropology subject, but i have read Lundman's the living races and peoples of europe (internet version) and some german texts of him and i don't think personally to much of it, im neither a real coon fan, but its to me more than obvious that he knew a lot more than our scandinavian friend. It is generally accepted that the cromagnid races of europe and northern africa are related with each other. And on the other side even the untrained eye can see the close relationship of the mediterranid and nordid races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
    Lundman's Scandid is closer to Cro-Magnid than it is to Mediterranid.
    I repeat what i've said in another thread. I respect Lundman work, but i have the vague impression of a subtle form of racism from him. I note a sort of basilar "rejection" against what he perceive like "Armenid" and "Mediterranid". (imo, at least)

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    Post Re: IE = Nordic?

    I love Bennett's UP vs. Nordid threads.

    Anyway, I can't view the modern racial condition of Europids as segregated as it is presented here. I mean, no one is pure Nordid or pure UP in ancestry so if there is a "racial soul" or a "racial folk mind" then the two have clearly blended over the millennia and I have my doubts about utter and total discretion.

    Also, I tend to subscribe to the thought that modern Nordids are simply gracialized Nordeuropid UPs. And, if this is so, then there's really no issue at hand.

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    Post Re: IE = Nordic?

    At some crucial point we will all have to face the fact that the Cro-Magnoid race is more closely related to the Northern Mongoloid race of the Tungids and Nordsinids than it is to the Nordic. Then you will have to understand the Nordic race as Capellid, or something similar, and accept its close relations with the Mediterranean.

    All this hopeful, reaching talk of gracilized Cro-Magnids is just ridiculous, and only serves to make Nordids feel better about themselves, feeling they have grand origins.

    It seems that everyone on the bloody planet, except for a small group of religious hopefuls, knows that a gracilized Cro-Magnid reads absolulely nothing like a Nordid in any way, shape, or form.
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    Post Re: IE = Nordic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett
    At some crucial point we will all have to face the fact that the Cro-Magnoid race is more closely related to the Northern Mongoloid race of the Tungids and Nordsinids than it is to the Nordic. Then you will have to understand the Nordic race as Capellid, or something similar, and accept its close relations with the Mediterranean.

    All this hopeful, reaching talk of gracilized Cro-Magnids is just ridiculous, and only serves to make Nordids feel better about themselves, feeling they have grand origins.

    It seems that everyone on the bloody planet, except for a small group of religious hopefuls, knows that a gracilized Cro-Magnid reads absolulely nothing like a Nordid in any way, shape, or form.
    Cro-Magnids in general more related to Mongloids than Nordics???
    Where's the evidence?

    And since when does one have to be UP to have a grand origin? Wasn't it Indo-Europeans who brought argriculture, the horse and metal technologies into europe?

    In your schema of UP seperatism what's an Anglo-Saxon? Whats a Falid?

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