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    Have You Ever "Changed" Your God?

    Some of you might have found "their" God a long time ago, established a very special connection with one of the Æsir or Vanir. With one God (or maybe even more?) who "suited" you in general, your character, and your needs. You dedicated your life to him/her.

    But then maybe something in your life changes, the "old" God doesn't fit anymore or you just don't feel "at home" with this certain one anymore.

    Have you ever or would you change "your" God?
    Or would this be some sort of "betrayal"?
    Or in contrary, is this a common practise?

    (this question is only directed to people who have found/chosen a certain God as their "main God")

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    AW: Have you ever "changed" your God?

    No. I never changed my personality... No, just fun! I never believed in a god. The only thing, that I believe in is ME and a better future!


    * Verräter verfallen der Feme! *

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    I actually consider both Wuotan and Donar to be the main godly influences in my life, and really don't see that changing at all. In the beginning of my heathenry, I cultivated a relationship with Donar first, because out of all the Aesir, I felt most inline with him, his role amongst the Gods and man, and what he stands for.

    I recognized a while back that as an amateur scholar/researcher of our histories and the base roots of our faith, that Wuotan was a prevalent influence in my life, and in many other ways, too. So, knowning full well what I was getting myself into, I have begun cultivating a relationship with him, too.

    With all that said, I feel that it is inaccurate to seek guidance and wisdom from the gods before seeking those things from one's ancestors. The gods have their place, of course, but the ancestors deserve much more respect and attention than just hailing them when sitting at Sumbel. They should be the first ones that we bring our problems to, the first ones that we make offerings to in times of need. The Gods, at the holy tides and at other appropriate times.
    I love G.R.I.T.S.(Girls Raised In The South)

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    Have you ever "changed" your god ?

    At age 18, I decided that the Judaeo-Christian god is unworthy of worship. After decades of philosophical speculation and reasoning, I concluded that the supreme being is unknowable, inconceivable, and incomprehensible. As such, it cannot have any humanly devised name. Or rather, all names being equally inadequate, any name will do.

    The Hindu god, Brahman is essentially equivalent to the supreme being and it is interesting to note that Brahman, like the supreme being is so abstract and incomprehensible that it is not worshipped as such. All of the, at least 30,000, Hindu gods are recognized as being aspects of Brahman. So, a Hindu may worship any of the gods which exemplifies those aspects of Brahman which most appeal to him. Intending no sacrilege or disrespect, I have called Hinduism a religious smörgåsbord.

    The least tainted by personal traits of the Hindu gods is Ishvara, the humanly accessible aspect of Brahman. Were I given to bothering the Absolute with my prayers, that is whom I would worship. However, I worship no god and pray to no god.

    The supreme being must, surely, be omniscient. If so, I do not need to tell it what I need, for surely, it knows. I need not badger it with pleas and promises of dubious sincerity. It will do as it wills. Notice that I use the neuter pronoun. I do not conceive of the supreme being as having genitals, or, therefore, as having gender.

    It seems very likely to me that the supreme being, having a universe with which to concern itself, pays scant attention, if any, to me. I consider "He walks with me and He talks with me, and He tells me I am His own...." both absurd and presumptuous.

    Though, I usually list my religion as agnostic, I have, at times listed the advaita Vedanta, which is the henotheistic concept of the gods as aspects of Brahman, the supreme being. In a sense, of course, neither Agnosticism nor the advaita Vedanta is a religion. Each is a philosophical position.

    So, I changed my god from Yahweh-Yeshua hamashua to a nameless, abstract, supreme being which I do not worship.

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    I never put a name on any of the supernatural forces that I felt. I never did believe in Jesus. It wasn't until I discovered Germanic Heathenism that I decided that names were a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egil Skallagrimsson
    I concluded that the supreme being is unknowable, inconceivable, and incomprehensible.

    The supreme being must, surely, be omniscient. If so, I do not need to tell it what I need, for surely, it knows. I need not badger it with pleas and promises of dubious sincerity. It will do as it wills. Notice that I use the neuter pronoun. I do not conceive of the supreme being as having genitals, or, therefore, as having gender.

    It seems very likely to me that the supreme being, having a universe with which to concern itself, pays scant attention, if any, to me.

    So, I changed my god from Yahweh-Yeshua hamashua to a nameless, abstract, supreme being which I do not worship.
    Your words remind me of a quote from Vonnegut's The Siren's of Titan:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Vonnegut - The Sirens of Titan
    Prayer to God, the Utterly Indifferent

    "O Lord of Most High, Creator of the Cosmos,
    Spinner of Galaxies, Soul of Electromagnetic
    Waves, Inhaler and Exhaler of Inconceivable
    Volumes of Vacuum, Splitter of Fire and Rock,
    Trifler with Millennia - what could we do for
    Thee that Thou couldst not do for Thyself one
    octillion times better? Nothing. What could we
    do or say that could possibly interest Thee?
    Nothing. Oh, Mankind rejoice in the apathy of
    our Creator, for it makes us free and truthful and
    dignified at last...
    ...O Lord Most High, what a glorious weapon is Thy
    Apathy, for we have unsheathed it, have thrust
    and slashed mightily with it, and the claptrap that
    has so often enslaved us or driven us into the
    madhouse lies slain!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rúna
    Have you ever or would you change "your" God?
    Or would this be some sort of "betrayal"?
    Or in contrary, is this a common practise?

    (this question is only directed to people who have found/chosen a certain God as their "main God")
    In Hinduism, this can actually happen a lot. A person might be a devotee of one god during his youth, another during his adulthood, and a third in old age.

    Max Müller called this practice kathenotheism. It's a kind of henotheism (which is the worship of one main god while believing in many), and it contrasts with monolatry, in which the worshipper sticks to one god throughout his life.

    I'm guessing that since it's got a name, it's probably a reasonably common practice.

    Whether it's a betrayal or not is probably between you and the god you're feeling like leaving. If I had an understanding with Tiw and wanted to switch my primary allegiance to Woden, for example, then I would want to take it up with Tiw first and find out how he felt about it before making the switch. As long as the cessation of the "contract" between you and the previous god is acceptable to both parties, then it's hard to go wrong by making the switch, I think.

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    Interesting thread. Well I definitely switched gods when I left Christianity behind, but since becoming heathen I've not considered having a patron god. I've felt close to many of the gods at different times, but none so often I'd consider devoting myself to a single deity.

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    Nah, never worshipped another being before...

    ... Well, I remember when I was about 6 years old, it was raining outside, and I was sitting in my room, staring out. And while I was staring outside in the rain, I suddenly saw this damn huge spider crawling down from the window. At first, I was scared as hell, and didn't want to go to bed while that huge, disgusting thing was there. But then, I found out I were going to put God on the ultimate test: If I pray to God now, and ask him to remove that ugly and scary spider, I would truly, truly believe and worship him. If not, he would just be another lie.

    Wanna know what happened?

    I prayed to God, Jesus and all that using a prayer I learnt long time ago from my mother. But the damn spider didn't go away!

    So I guess since then, Christianity have just been lame

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    I changed from RC but thats the only change.
    Improvement makes straight roads but the crooked roads without improvment are roads of genius-----
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