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Thread: Debunking the Myth of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loddfafner View Post
    Kenneth Dover's study was the basis for Foucault's writings. Dover was, incidentally, heterosexual. His nuanced analysis was intended as a challenge to those who claimed that ancient Greece was a gay paradise as much to those who tried to pretend that homosexuality did not really exist then.
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    Which nobody actually does. Hence it's kind of a straw man argument.

    Gay activists have pretended the Homosexuality of quite a number of historic figures - mostly without any probative base for it. Given that agenda there is some reason for suspicion.
    "And God proclaims as a first principle to the rulers, and above all else, that there is nothing which they should so anxiously guard, or of which they are to be such good guardians, as of the purity of the race. They should observe what elements mingle in their offspring;..." Plato Politeia

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    Homosexuality in Ancient Greece had precious little to do with the "gayness" of the modern age. To be sure, there was likely elements of homosexuality in Sparta, that can't be denied. Many Spartans were probably bisexuals, who had gay bonds to other men in the army but married women later on. But yes, most of what we perceive as "homosexuality" today was probably a combination of the Greek artistic depictions of naked male bodies, and their well-documented sense of comradeship between male warriors.

    Homoeroticism is perhaps a better word than homosexuality, since the latter implies a romantic attraction to men. The Greek classical cultures liked to appreciate the athletic male body as an ideal of beauty (this sex symbol portrayal was also done with women). It was this appreciation of naked beauty that the Third Reich tried to convey in their statues. It's entirely unrelated to the modern-day effeminate "queer culture".

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