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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    Sól has already done this in post #160, where she informed us that the National Socialists considered Nordids to be more valuable than Dinarids, Alpinids, East Baltids and others.
    I just pointed out a historical fact. You're the one who said you have affinities with NS. But let's analyze it for a minute.

    Are you going to seriously tell me that this race



    is more progressive than (or equally progressive as) this race?



    Would you rather that the future Germanic look more like the first, or more like the second? And I am not only talking about aesthetics. Think well.

    The National Socialists created something very close to a classless society and, having achieved this, dividing the German population along sub-racial lines would have been sheer folly.
    But they did exactly that, they made a division along sub-racial lines, except that the NS didn't consider them subraces, instead they referred to them as different races. If the NS wanted a classless, egalitarian society, they wouldn't have exalted the Nordic race before other races nor sought to increase the preponderance of this type of race through special breeding programs and elite organizations like the SS. Their aim was to produce as many Nordics as possible, while the other races had less or no priority at all. Some of the races that were lower on the scale were sought to be ideally reduced or bred out. So obviously, there was a hierarchy and value system where some races were considered to be better than (or superior to) other races.

    Asked whether she felt superior to other Skadi members, her reply was that she doesn't believe in equality.
    And what is the problem with that? Don't tell me that you feel equal to everybody because that's a lie and we both know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theunissen View Post
    The SS did however have a booklet, "Gattenwahl", which promoted Eugenics meaning to be selective in chosing ones mate.
    https://archive.org/details/SSRassen...nZurGattenwahl
    Nice that you link the guide that disproves your claim that there was no "breeding intent" for the Nordic Race

    Im deutschen Volke überwiegt das nordische Erbgut. Die nordische Rasse ist nicht nur die vorherrschende Rasse, sondern blutsmäßig in fast allen deutschen Menschen vorhanden. "Blut und Boden" sind kein leerer Begriff, sondern unser Schicksal. Damit ist auch das Zuchtziel des deutschen Volkes gegeben. Es vollzieht sich in der Verwirklichung des Lebensgesetzes seiner prägenden Rasse.
    The goal was, over generations, to reduce the share of non-Nordics within the German Volk as a whole. The SS was only the start of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sól View Post
    I just pointed out a historical fact. You're the one who said you have affinities with NS. But let's analyze it for a minute.

    Are you going to seriously tell me that this race



    is more progressive than (or equally progressive as) this race?



    Would you rather that the future Germanic look more like the first, or more like the second? And I am not only talking about aesthetics. Think well.


    But they did exactly that, they made a division along sub-racial lines, except that the NS didn't consider them sub-races, instead they referred to them as different races. If the NS wanted a classless, egalitarian society, they wouldn't have exalted the Nordic race before other races nor sought to increase the preponderance of this type of race through special breeding programs and elite organizations like the SS. Their aim was to produce as many Nordics as possible, while the other races had less or no priority at all. Some of the races that were lower on the scale were sought to be ideally reduced or bred out. So obviously, there was a hierarchy and value system where some races were considered to be better than (or superior to) other races.
    You replied to SaxonPagan .... and my answer would be pretty obvious.
    Still (personally) I don't have anything against Samis people directly (meaning: I don't hate them). There are 70 000 of them in the World (more than half of those living in Norway). No matter what ... I don't think they are the biggest risk or fear to white race or even to Nordics. Especially as they don't rape/make crimes in Scandinavia.

    But lets makes the same bit more interesting (less obvious), shall we? So how one would ''rank'' these sub-races? Hierarchy or value system .... from the best (or the most superior) to the worst/least valuable?









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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Nice that you link the guide that disproves your claim that there was no "breeding intent" for the Nordic Race



    The goal was, over generations, to reduce the share of non-Nordics within the German Volk as a whole. The SS was only the start of that.
    Mind reading all I wrote:
    Quote Originally Posted by Theunissen View Post
    Actually, no. That Lebensborn was some sort of Stud Program for blonde, blue-eyed Aryans is a myth from Allied propaganda. It seems that Thomas Mann started it, when he made radio speeches from the US.
    The mission of Lebensborn was to take care of mothers and children who didn't have the means to take care of themselves (e.g. unwed mothers, or families with a lot of children already). This involved taking care of pregnant women, assisting with birth, helping young mothers and caring for orphans.
    Of course they were selective for what mothers and children of what fathers they'd would take care. The aim of Lebensborn e.V. was to prevent abortions, early child death and to promote higher birth rates.

    http://www.zeno.org/Geschichte/M/Der...mittagssitzung

    The SS did however have a booklet, "Gattenwahl", which promoted Eugenics meaning to be selective in chosing ones mate.
    https://archive.org/details/SSRassen...nZurGattenwahl
    I was talking about the Lebensborn, which was charitable organisation for mothers with children and large families and not as Allied and postwar propaganda suggested some sort of breeding organisation were favorable males and females were brought together to mate.


    The Lebensborn as Sex park/baby factories is propaganda fiction just as the homicidal gas chambers in Auschwitz are.

    That said National Socialism where promoting higher birth rates and good breeding practices.

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    You can't have culture without race and a state to cultivate that ethnos, but culture is vital to an ethnicity. Even the Chinese, the most excessive marxists, relented on their great leap forward. I think the state either becomes superfluous to a raceless people without culture, or it becomes totalitarian and dull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theunissen View Post
    I was talking about the Lebensborn, which was charitable organisation for mothers with children and large families and not as Allied and postwar propaganda suggested some sort of breeding organisation were favorable males and females were brought together to mate.
    She never said this, and you accuse her of "mind reading".

    She rightly said that "they did indeed intent to breed a high quality elite stock for SA/SS and other leading structures with Lebensborn", and this is correct. They were fully aware that such an institution would encourage Nordoid people to risk extramarital children. No matter they did not actively "bring the parents together to mate".
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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