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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergreen
    I am still waiting for those who are brave enough to pray to give me some new ides.
    Sorry to disappoint you boss ()--but I too have no set prayer that I vocalize. I do however give thanks in my own private manner when I realize and recognize a blessing that has come to me and I have spots that I go to for quiet and meditation. Often then, when I've been in that "other state" of being and reflection is clear I give thanks for my fortune of being who I am and where I am and mostly, for the love and fine people in my life.

    I do believe that one time, in a very heightend state, in the middle of a deep, Vermont forest, I was visited by Wotan for a brief spell in which I gave thanks and was acknowledged.... :odinsleip :tree16:

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    Did prayers exist in pre-Christian time?
    Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weg
    Did prayers exist in pre-Christian time?
    I think so, but I am not sure it was called "prayer"...I will have to find that out!

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    When I was younger, my father would put me to sleep with a prayer, well, to God, but then we would always suffix those prayers with a wishing of wellness to our whole family, that they might be well, and in some cases, thankful for our ancestors.

    I suppose that a prayer should be for the thankfulness of prosperity and thankful that our ancestors worked hard and labored through their lives so we can sit and eat our meals every day. Anything specifically heathen? Eh, I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freya3
    I think so, but I am not sure it was called "prayer"...I will have to find that out!
    I prefer the using the term "invocation" instead of prayer.

    On the Odinic Rite website there are some invocations to various gods and goddesses under their listings here.

    Here is one for Heimdal:

    Heimdal, shining one, father of old
    Send us your cleansing fire.
    Let its flame blaze up in the soul of our folk
    And rouse us to a bright rebirth!
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    Now, I find it a useful way to pay homage to my belief and solidify my position as a believing heathen.
    I agree. The more I invoke the holy powers the closer I feel to them. At first it seems a bit odd to be talking to the gods but the feeling of strangeness goes away after doing it long enough.

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    Oh, and I was just thinking that maybe the reason why we, as Northern Europeans are so resistant to ritual and intense relationships with our gods is that for the past five hundred years, what has been the most influential philosophy among us? Protestantism and capitalism.

    Protestantism is the bleakest, most sterile religion in human history. Though we are no longer Protestant Christians we still have a lot of leftover cultural residue left in our minds. Though the rituals of our ancestors were probably not as flamboyant as that of the Hindus and the Chinese, they still had them.

    We also live in a capitalist society where religion is all too often ridiculed as something for people who aren't good at making money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidarsson
    why we, as Northern Europeans
    Uhm...
    I mean no disrespect, or no offence, but aren't you american? There is a difference there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gagnraad
    Uhm...
    I mean no disrespect, or no offence, but aren't you american? There is a difference there...
    My apologies, I meant Northern European descent. Both sides of my family are Protestants as well.

    Edit:

    The term "American" simply describes where I live, and has nothing to do with ethnicity and little to do with culture. Unfortunately, Americans don't have the luxury of saying, for example, "I'm a German-speaking German living in Germany." We have to say, for example: "I'm an English-speaking German living in the United States." The US is nothing more than a 200 year-old political entity, and the word "American" has nothing to do with ethnicity.

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    i belive there is nothing wrong with prayer out loud and have been kicked out of a few classes for doing so before a test or on a stress full day or whenever yeah i get a few weird looks its not really a bother to me anymore after a while you just dont notice anymore.

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    And they are always saying that "tolerance" is what they wish to establish!!

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