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    Post Re: Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour
    My point is, That we need to find another way to "Punish" the criminals, in a most succesful way. Just like with drug abuse, A boy does it and gets yelled at and says I'll never do it, a couple of months later he goes out and does it because he thinks things are fine now. But see, if he was punished, he would know and realize that if he does something wrong, he will be punished again and feel that pain.
    That is only one scenario you've created in that adolescent mind of yours. Not real life. Of course, I know you will think otherwise when you are being tortured, if it ever occurs. Torturing people for killing others without remorse is one thing, torturing people who suffer from addictions is another and is never productive when the outcome is extreme psychological damage.

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    Post Re: Torture

    I don't fear torture because I know I am a good person and would never commit a crime. Did you ever think of the positive effects it could have on whites? All those filthy immigrants might start leaving when they realize if they do something wrong, They will be punished in foreign land. You might say that killing people who suffer an addiction is not productive, but is it productive that the person is going around spreading drugs to people?
    "Extreme psychological damage" can be used as a powerful tool.
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    Post Re: Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour
    I don't fear torture because I know I am a good person and would never commit a crime.

    Anybody who says they are a "good" person is hardly good at all. Anyone who does not fear torture is either lying or two cards short of a deck (or in other words, CRAZY).

    Did you ever think of the positive effects it could have on whites?

    Yes, but I do want a list.

    All those filthy immigrants might start leaving when they realize if they do something wrong, They will be punished in foreign land.

    Define which ones, please?

    You might say that killing people who suffer an addiction is not productive,

    What do you mean I "might" say that, I DID say that.

    but is it productive that the person is going around spreading drugs to people?

    No, obviously it is not.

    "Extreme psychological damage" can be used as a powerful tool.

    Yes, it very well can.

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    Post Re: Torture

    Anybody who says they are a "good" person is hardly good at all. Anyone who does not fear torture is either lying or two cards short of a deck (or in other words, CRAZY).
    Yes. I am an evil teenager who drives around running over older people. If I was in the position of torture, yes of course I would fear it! but what I meant was, Why should I have to be so worried about it? I know I don't do bad things. So are you a good person AKA crazy?



    Yes, but I do want a list.
    The list your demmand. See all those Negroids that go around stealing? perhaps if they are tortured a bit some might stop. See those filthy Morocans in Barcelona that cause trouble? maybe if they are tortured they will change a bit.




    Define which ones, please?
    Which ones? Morocans,Turks,Pakis,Iranians,etc
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    Post Re: Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff
    So, if it is ok for your side to torture members of the other side, is it ok for them to torture you for the same purposes?
    No! That's why we're on different sides!

    But seriously, real torture (in the medieval sense) demeans the doer as much as the recipient. I would, personally, be for more liberal use of the (humane) death sentence in indidputable cases. (Besides, 'truth serums' might well produce the equivalent of any amount of more gruesome options.)

    I just hate how white people hear a word, like 'torture,' and their feelings and logic are immediately taken over by Judeo-Christian memes.

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    Post Re: Torture

    By Strengthandhonour:
    Yes. I am an evil teenager who drives around running over older people. If I was in the position of torture, yes of course I would fear it! but what I meant was, Why should I have to be so worried about it? I know I don't do bad things. So are you a good person AKA crazy?
    I was refering to typical human hypocrisy.

    By Strengthandhonour:
    The list your demmand. See all those Negroids that go around stealing? perhaps if they are tortured a bit some might stop. See those filthy Morocans in Barcelona that cause trouble? maybe if they are tortured they will change a bit.
    I wouldn't torture them. I would deport them by force.

    By Strengthandhonour:
    Define which ones, please?
    Which ones? Morocans,Turks,Pakis,Iranians,etc
    You forgot the Blacks also.

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    Post Re: Torture

    Torture as a PUNISHMENT allows certain people with the propensity towards sadism [and masochism - how many people secretly WANT to be tortured?] to give full vent to their proclivities.

    This makes for an enjoyable spectacle as far as many people are concerned [I presume that violent films etc., fufill this latent desire today in the 'civilised' West].

    But torture as a tool to get information from captured enemy fighters is still necessary. Of course those who are employed to do the official torturing will often be those who "enjoy their jobs".

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    Post Re: Torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Strengthandhonour
    I don't fear torture because I know I am a good person and would never commit a crime.
    Never underestimate the idiocy of those in positions of power. Our ideas are semi-illegal in many countries, and no one knows what the future may hold in store. Do you think that those in power are too honest to frame political enemies for crimes they didnt commit?

    Besides, torture is dishonourable and un-Aryan. I might hesitantly accept it in some cases of personal revenge, but the State should not degrade itself to this.

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    Post Re: AW: Torture

    That's very wrong.

    It's NEVER right to torture someone, even if they were the most evil person in the world.

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