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    Quote Originally Posted by Þoreiðar View Post
    I'll skip away ideologies, ideas, values of NS ... as those are not on the table now .... and concentrate only the power structures (leadership).

    I don't think that nation/German people could have been able to change/remove Hitler (=> put him to step away) ... even if they would have wanted to do so. So for me that reminds pretty much of dictatorship (which I commented already earlier), not a new option ... even as it was not that at time Hitler got in power. Over all, that kind of ''development'' is nothing new in humans history. Then someone who is eager to power .... gets in power => he often will try to make his power greater and more strong/stable/unquestionable ... if system/society around just allows that.

    As sooner or later a bad apple/ a bad egg will/would get in power ... makes that kind of system far from perfect.

    I don't keep old monarchies (as a system) perfect either. Some of the European kings were really ''mad kings'' (or ''bad apples'' as I used above). I doubt people who faced their madness ... fate / destiny ... (or those poor people's relatives) either admired them.

    Nope ... there should be ways/tools for citizens to change their leaders (if needed). How this would be done, based on what, who would/will control who, how often changes could happen, who of citizens/people could influence on that process, etc. are questions which should be planned. Plus in the end ... no systems will stay good forever ... power corrupt people/humans. So no matter what we would choose ... it should be re-planned after some time. Or fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Just for those who support the idea:

    If we would take away (= ''steal'') the rights of voting from women ... what right(s) we would take away from men?
    Female emancipation will not succeed until the concept of "fallen women" is put aside by women themselves. Resolving the problem of prostitution is fundamental.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth Lee Hunter View Post
    Yet, somewhere along the way, the descendants of these white, European men have become virtually 1) disenfranchised in the remarkably advanced world they continue to develop while being 2) condemned by their own female counterparts, and 3) hated by the non-whites they at least tried to generously share their unsurpassed culture and evolving technology with.

    Why did this catastrophe occur?
    1. Race mixing

    2. The time of the Romans/British has passed, the world is now approximating a strictly Hellenic renaissance. In Der Mythus, Rosenberg leaves room for an eventual transition to female dominance as a later stage: "Before they arrived in Greece, the Hellenes did not view female dominance as the first stage of development. From the cradle, they obeyed the law of the father." Somewhere in Plato's dialogue Laws, in the aftermath of a worldwide crisis, Plato expected civilization to be renewed beginning with a patriarchy. Incidentally, this was one of the things which distinguished the Greeks from their contemporaries who were subordinated under matriarchy.

    Hitler was resistant to men turning inward, becoming contemplative (although he granted that man must occupy himself with ideas), being ousted from politics and leadership positions, etc. Perhaps he was correct in this, but the world betrayed him. So it deserves what has befallen it.
    It appears the emergence of female leadership is in accordance with Nature, Nature is merely claiming it's rights. Someone who lived in nature his whole life (shockingly, he was Christian and an American) mentioned to me that he had noticed the remarkable lack of men who entered the forests, as well as a scarcity of humans frequenting these forests, but he had met a young girl who apparently strayed into the forest by accident. He helped her find her parents).

    I'm still reading up on Rosenberg's view of women (he appears to have been strongly traditionalist, as seen in Chapter 2 of Der Mythus), but based on what I've read from Hitler, it's desirable they remain out of politics and especially military affairs. A woman who shouts at the top of her lungs is rather unsightly. The female element can be compared with the masses, with writers, and with Protestants: impractical for politics and sentimental, never objective. The Jews desire to elevate people in this cast of mind to politics since they are harmless against them, only harmful towards the people in the long run.

    3. Expecting the non-whites to be grateful (this was, in Hitler's view, Britain's chief mistake). Trying to win them over to a patchworks Christianity. Trying to educate them in historical indoctrination and politics while trampling on their traditions and customs instead of inculcating appreciation for arts and music. As 2 Clements and 1 Peter 2:12 point out, when they see Christians behaving hypocritically, they lose respect for god and the world. The fact that Christianity is chiefly responsible for all of this is demonstrated in Martin Luther's indictment (also reiterated by Hitler in Mein Kampf): https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/1514luther.asp

    Hitler's policy towards Slavs (to keep them non-political, non-intellectual, and occupied with only music and arts) was very sound.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeuSchwabe View Post
    But as far as democracy in general is concerned I already shared a video earlier on of Adolf Hitler explaining why it does not work and I agree with his stance there, so we have no argument when it comes to that. I am not christian either, and the traditional ideals of patriarchy existed long before those abrahamic faiths as well.
    Which video was this? The commonly circulated speech about feminism?

    In a democracy and in times of emergency, leadership requires a Catholic type, an agitator, a man.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeuSchwabe View Post
    The fact that women seek "balance of all things" is the very reason they should never have been given a say in politics to the degree that they do.
    Correct, neutral elements often side with the enemy and woman, like the masses, are a passive element.

    As Rosenberg put it in Der Mythus: "The Moirai, like the Norns in Teutonic mythology, are female because in woman the impersonal alone rules. She is the passive vessel of the law."

    This should not be confused with objectivity, which is man's peculiar trait.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    As a Nationalsocialist, you should overcome this view and reconcile both. While there are male and females roles based in Nature/biology, which no one denies, excluding women from the political life based on the christian view, merely for being female, only continues the Jew-imposed Gender War.
    Also correct, Nietzsche overcame similar contradictions (particularly Schopenhauer's pessimism, for which Hitler admired him). It's hard to pin Nietzsche down as a misogynist like with Schopenhauer, he furnishes good points for both arguments.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Women seek a balance of things, they seek to be just and fair, they're the glue that binds society together. Dehumanising women is the most effective way to destroy a society and a race.
    Regrettably, as lawyers and jurists, they let criminals get off too easy. I cannot prove this assertion as of yet, but it's my current suspicion. A recent case: https://vancouversun.com/news/world/...3-149013810552

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    Female emancipation will not succeed until the concept of "fallen women" is put aside by women themselves. Resolving the problem of prostitution is fundamental.
    Why so? Why we? It doesn't harm me. It doesn't influence on me. I have nothing to do with it.

    The phenomenon influences only to MEN! It exists only because of MEN!
    Keep your trousers up and wallet closed ... and it will/would disappear automatically. Simple?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Why so? Why we? It doesn't harm me. It doesn't influence on me. I have nothing to do with it.
    And that's the kind of attitude which causes men to view women as hypocrites.

    I just happened to watch the film Batman: Gotham by Gaslight a few days ago. I was moved by how they put Selina Kyle in the role of a upper class stage performer who championed the cause of prostitutes. Likewise, by the clever placement of Leslie Thompkins as a sister presiding over an orphanage.
    (although irrelevant to this conversation, I was impressed by the twist behind Jack the Ripper's identity, there were plenty of candidates and this take on the comic was superior to the Hush adaptation)

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Keep your trousers up and wallet closed ... and it will/would disappear automatically. Simple?
    That's just as superficial as the view that a physical expulsion of Jews is sufficient. Prostitution in Weimar Germany was only remedied medically. It's not enough to condemn the victim, one must also lay down a condemnation for those responsible for perpetuating the status quo. The social conditions which enable prostitution and parasitism must be eliminated, namely, irrational and persistent stigmatization.

    The fact that Hitler outlined in Mein Kampf that the full implications of combating syphilis and prostitution was more than simply doing away with prostitutes as a phenomena speaks volumes about how far ahead of his times he really was.

    Between the Judensau and the Passion Play, which form of anti-Semitism seems more justified?

    Besides, your prescription is only suited for philosophers, ascetics, and fanatics, which are unbelievably scarce nowadays. The masses and mere adherents lead utterly bourgeois lives. With the horrible state philosophy has fallen into, with the increasing attachment for Oriental religions and mysticism (which lead Westerners astray), and with the poor conditions engineered by Christianity, there is very little incentive for the masses to strive for betterment. The bourgeois can only learn lessons by their pockets and financial strain, in which case the presence of international bankers is somewhat justified.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    The phenomenon influences only to MEN! It exists only because of MEN!
    This blame game is rather unjust. I say this as a pure misanthrope who disregards race, class, religion, and gender. My counterparts, those who actually love humanity and act in it's best interests, unlike me, the great men of old, likewise disregarded these distinctions in their assessment, with sheer objectivity and precision.

    The problem of sexuality is remarkably very similar to the Jewish question. I don't believe the Jew Otto Weininger was being sentimental in his analysis. Hardly coincidental. The solution to both problems requires responsibility from the group the problem pertains to. In the case of the Jews, the Jews must be made to dispense with Jahwe as a group, of their own will, without any coercion.

    They must also realize what a great menace their people represent (from the racial PoV), without simply parroting the nationalists and revisionists who co-opt their testimony for their ends. Self-hatred is not effective. Instead, the Jews must come to terms with their Jewishness, gain an understanding for why they do what they do.

    So the woman too must also understand her allotment in life. The demand for equality only pertains to religion (especially in theocracies. Hitler distinguished between the church presence in Germany and the churches in England and Austria). In the social life, there must always be a hierarchy.

    Actually, prostitution should be considered foreign to men (exceptional cases in journalism and politics). Prostitution is not only a result of social conditions, but also appears to be an inclination (as a mere possibility in all women, not as an inevitability). Jewishness is likewise a possibility in the non-Jewish peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    And that's the kind of attitude which causes men to view women as hypocrites.
    It's hardly women's fault that men (as average level) have high sexual drive! Or even less ... personally mine.
    I admit ... that ''trait'' might have been ''necessary'' for ancient humans pure surviving (was that good after all is another matter). People died easily, suddenly, no medicines ... often very young age and total numbers of humans were pretty small/low .... but today the same is the biggest problem (original reason behind) of overpopulation problem ... which humans faces. It also causes lots of crimes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    And that's the kind of attitude which causes men to view women as hypocrites.
    Nah ... just fix it / control it. You know, that's a way how the world (= mens wold) works, right? No mercy here ... as we are talking about men now. Just be a nice boy and swallow the soup (what men have been cooking).

    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    That's just as superficial as the view
    Nah, just totally full off all those endless men's threads which blames women for this and for that ... time after time. Those if any are ''superficial''.
    You know the saying: What goes around, comes around? Especially then facing ''beastly'' person.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    This blame game is rather unjust.
    Read/see above ... I'm quick enough leaner. Name of game ...

    What comes Jews part of your text ... did't even bother to read it. Boring and no interests. So no other comments here ... except that the biggest matter which I really hate in USA ... is Americans double faces morals/behavior what comes to Israel. Chosen people? Gimme a break! All religions ... meaning: all of them ... are just mumbo jumbo stuff ... or more directly said: BS!
    I assume I made myself clear here...

    Lastly: Nothing personal above just general comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    It's hardly women's fault that men (as average level) have high sexual drive! Or even less ... personally mine.
    It's only incidental that men notice women in the first place. In the time of ancient philosophers, they were chiefly occupied with ideas, this resulted in sublimation (in the original sense of the word, not as it used in psychoanalytical circles), scarcely any sexual energy remaining. Hitler is the best example of this. Surrounded by women but completely disinterested.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    I admit ... that ''trait'' might have been ''necessary'' for ancient humans pure surviving (was that good after all is another matter). People died easily, suddenly, no medicines ... often very young age and total numbers of humans were pretty small/low .... but today the same is the biggest problem (original reason behind) of overpopulation problem ... which humans faces. It also causes lots of crimes.
    And in the aftermath of the Thirty Year War. Polygamy has historical merit, encourages competitions among wives.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    What comes Jews part of your text ... didn't even bother to read it. Boring and no interests.
    If you refuse to recognize that there is some merit in the claim that the Jew is "the greater master of the lie", then you won't be able to make a lasting contribution to society in the long run. As a result of climate and their deplorable circumstances, the Jews were the first to develop an extremely high intelligence among the nations, the lie in politics and religion originated with them.

    However, I'm not like the other anti-Semites who wish to see the Jews disappear from the midst of Europeans and Americans. I have come to view the Jews as a sort of stabilizing element, despite their inherent inclination for disorder. A great calamity would probably ensue with their disappearance. The Judaized peoples of the world would turn against each other the moment their primitive motives for unity were satisfied. Which is why I cannot condone or endorse an anti-Zionist coalition which appears to be in the making.

    Thus, I made an extensive inquiry into the concept of "decent Jews", based on Hitler's statement pertaining to Otto Weininger. Presently the "great" Jews are esteemed for their borrowed knowledge (Einstein even admitted in his lectures that some of his ideas came from Herbert Spencer), their racial consciousness (i.e. Disraeli), for perpetuating brutal onslaughts (i.e. various Jewish rebel leaders in antiquity), or for wealth (obviously Rothschilds).
    I think the first step in resolving the Jewish question is to supplant those frauds (i.e. Freud, Einstein, Marx) with Jews who actually merit the acclaim (but they cannot be cited as merits of Israel/the Jewish "nation").

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    So no other comments here ... except that the biggest matter which I really hate in USA ... is Americans double faces morals/behavior what comes to Israel. Chosen people? Gimme a break!
    I cannot condone such moralism.

    The biggest matter I despise in America is the criminal neglect of their education system!

    I don't give a shred if the American government and politicians are given over to Israeli interests. America is clearly a lost cause, it cannot be salvaged. The Germans (likewise a stabilizing element in the midst of Europeans and Americans) who assimilated into this country must simply be reclaimed and then it will naturally descend into perdition. America has made it abundantly clear that the Germans are unwanted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    All religions ... meaning: all of them ... are just mumbo jumbo stuff ... or more directly said: BS! I assume I made myself clear here...
    The wrong conclusion to draw from it's abuse. Religion is one of the pillars of humanity. It is the only enduring censor for politicians and kings. They're all obliged to subscribe to Christian ethics, whether they identify as Christian or not, even in secular conditions. Thus religion furnishes the best opportunity to call them out on their religious hypocrisy. Obtaining total mastery of Christianity would make someone extremely dangerous to the status quo.

    Imagine what would've happened if someone like Michael Jackson had gained significant influence beyond his musical venture. No one could act without his input. A musical person (MJ), a (ex-)Catholic (JFK), a man is needed for this task. America's string of bad leadership is a result of Protestants coming into the forefront.

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    Lastly: Nothing personal above just general comments.
    None taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    It's only incidental that men notice women in the first place.
    You want to debate on matter: How much of men's sexual drive is based on men's natural instincts and how much of it is ''learned''? Sexuality is (in the end) the only/last animal instinct we have left. If we don't calculate ''desire of surviving'' into this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    If you refuse to recognize that there is some merit in the claim that the Jew is "the greater master of the lie", then you won't be able to make a lasting contribution to society in the long run.
    Nah, I know all that. They are what they are. I would be much more interest to read what to do with that matter.

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    However, I'm not like the other anti-Semites who wish to see the Jews disappear from the midst of Europeans and Americans.
    Lets say ... I live in Finland. Lets also say that for 21-years old I know something and especially what comes to history of my own country (I'm inquisitive person). Jews? My eyes turns to Sovjet Union (Bolsheviks, Communist party, Politburo). What Sovjet Union did for example internally at 1920's and 1930's ... were well known here at 1939 (as Winter War started) .... opposite to you (''the West'') ... you did't have any clue about those. Just continue calling Stalin as Uncle Joe. Many Russian's oligarchs (today) are Jews. Nothing has changed there (and neither is their attitudes, values, morals). No more on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    I don't give a shred if the American government and politicians are given over to Israeli interests.
    I would think exactly same ways, if USA would not be world's most powerful nation via its military and via its economy. If it would be so called banana size country (above matters) ... yes, I would't care any less either. But now? I think I have no afford to overlook them/what they do/what they think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    The wrong conclusion to draw from it's abuse. Religion is one of the pillars of humanity.
    Weak people needs that kind of guidelines to be able to live right ways. Common morals, values, laws, regulations etc. could be set without any religion behind of those.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    It is the only enduring censor for politicians and kings. They're all obliged to subscribe to Christian ethics, whether they identify as Christian or not, even in secular conditions. Thus religion furnishes the best opportunity to call them out on their religious hypocrisy.
    Or ... maybe old times monarchies etc. just were not ideal systems? True also what comes to present times democracies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    Obtaining total mastery of Christianity would make someone extremely dangerous to the status quo.
    Well ... we just should have tools to get rid of persons like that. And the next one please ...


    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    Imagine what would've happened if someone like Michael Jackson had gained significant influence beyond his musical venture. No one could act without his input. A musical person (MJ), a (ex-)Catholic (JFK), a man is needed for this task. America's string of bad leadership is a result of Protestants coming into the forefront.
    I'm not fan of Michael Jackson's music. I only like his song ''Beat it'' ... via guitar part ... riff and solo (played by Eddie Van Halen ... if I remember correctly). White Dutch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Terminus View Post
    None taken.
    Perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    You want to debate on matter: How much of men's sexual drive is based on men's natural instincts and how much of it is ''learned''? Sexuality is (in the end) the only/last animal instinct we have left. If we don't calculate ''desire of surviving'' into this.
    Your conclusion is reminiscent of Freud. Not everything is a manifestation of sexual impulse.

    Goethe furnishes the best example. In his life, he had a strong attachment for two woman: Charlotte von Stein (his senior) and Ulrika von Levetzow (a junior). He explained the inexplicable attraction for the former by way of past life, with no room for sexual affinity.

    Goethe was by no means a sentimental mystic, having paved the way for science (Darwin and Herbert Spencer). Also, he wasn't a pedophile, what has been attributed to him can be compared with the Bormann letters (in which Bormann occasionally addresses his wife as Mummy Girl and dear girlie).

    https://old.reddit.com/r/German/comm...apist/eln7d2b/

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Nah, I know all that. They are what they are. I would be much more interest to read what to do with that matter.
    It's not enough to warn people about the menace they pose. One must also emphasize the positive aspects of Hitler. This appears to be neglected in nationalistic circles, despite their propagandist videos and TGSNT documentary. All I ever see in the comments is toxicity disguised as brotherly solidarity.

    I think the latter (Hitler study) occupies 90% of my time while I've already finished my inquiry into anti-Semitism. I have been studying and cultivating philo-Semitism in it's place, for completion's sake. Revisionists focus too much on the Holocaust nowadays, there hasn't been another David Irving who speaks up for Hitler in years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Lets say ... I live in Finland. Lets also say that for 21-years old I know something and especially what comes to history of my own country (I'm inquisitive person). Jews? My eyes turns to Sovjet Union (Bolsheviks, Communist party, Politburo). What Sovjet Union did for example internally at 1920's and 1930's ... were well known here at 1939 (as Winter War started) .... opposite to you (''the West'') ... you did't have any clue about those. Just continue calling Stalin as Uncle Joe. Many Russian's oligarchs (today) are Jews. Nothing has changed there (and neither is their attitudes, values, morals). No more on this.
    I see your point and that you're a realist, and you may be right about it being a futile effort to win over Westerners (especially in America) from a historical/revisionist standpoint. But in my case, I wield something far more potent than revisionism: the purest Hitlerism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    I would think exactly same ways, if USA would not be world's most powerful nation via its military and via its economy. If it would be so called banana size country (above matters) ... yes, I would't care any less either. But now? I think I have no afford to overlook them/what they do/what they think.
    It's simpler for me to imagine the US doesn't exist. Getting involved in US politics is asking too much of me. After going through all the toxicity and pettiness and getting my hopes up for nothing time and time again, I'd rather keep up to date on German, Greek, or even Israeli politics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Weak people needs that kind of guidelines to be able to live right ways. Common morals, values, laws, regulations etc. could be set without any religion behind of those.
    Adam Weishaupt, by no means a friend of government and religion, came to the realization that a secular state would not last in the long run, arguing that people would shift endlessly from one ideology to another, without improving their foundation. Rousseau likewise pointed out their intent to patch up the system without clearing away the foundation like the Spartans did. The state of affairs would be one of open or secret warfare and the problem of evil would never be resolved, a new and worse evil would perpetually arise to disturb the status quo, like in comic books.

    Plus even someone like Machiavelli, in addition to Origen and Hitler, admitted that the authority of the Church was a necessary surrogate for the masses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Or ... maybe old times monarchies etc. just were not ideal systems? True also what comes to present times democracies.
    All systems are and will end up bankrupt, even if they're based on a sound racial constitution (i.e. Sparta), until both laws of nature and laws pertaining to consciousness (under which karma, reciprocation/balance, and reincarnation fall under) are acknowledged by world leaders who are qualified for leadership.

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    Terminus ... are you one kind of ''philosopher'' (a thinker) ... who still believes Hitlerism ?

    Me? A realist? You better believe that. My feet are (and stays) on the land.

    Ok, thank's for interesting opinions. I'm bit of something right now (just came/moved to Sweden yesterday), so I'll need to end this now.

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    Sorry for the late reply, was taken awfully busy the last few days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Þoreiðar View Post
    Do you have any numbers for that? I tried finding anything about voting divided by gender in Hungary, but to no avail.
    This Guardian article for instance writes about this being the case both in Hungary and Poland, which both have a quite conservative cultural hegemony with strong ruling parties (to the point that even the Left attribute this hegemony to Orban's party and their success).

    Back when the US in reality was a White Nationalist country, voting Democrat or Republican was of marginal significance. Voting Democrat pre-1960s and post-1980 are two entirely different things.
    It's a question of hegemony. Two things happened post-1960 in the US electorate: The South switched allegiance from Democrats to Republican (end of "Solid South"). Women switched allegiance from Republican to Democrats (precursor to the post-1968 situation laid out). Both matters are a question of hegemony, though on different ends.

    There's not really a whole lot at stake when voting in an anonymous election.
    If you believe that voting behaviour is governed by what happens in the ballot box alone, then you're very naive. People tend to be scared to vote what their peers believe to be the "wrong" choice. There is, by and at large, more at stake for women, by risking exclusion from a social circle than there is for men - for biological and social reasons.

    So blaming men is alright, but never ever is criticism of women okay. Reluctance to criticize women is not a characteristic of a strong man, but that of a cuck.
    I criticise women at the same level I criticise men when the criticism is on equal merit. Here it's not: Women naturally seek structural stability. If men are supposed to be those to afford that stability, then women breaking away from sensible politics in drones is more the fault of weak men than it is of women: if men "get stuff done" then the absence of "getting stuff done" is also their fault.

    Turning the feminist logic around and pointing fingers about how women supposedly ruined all whilst men didn't have a part in letting all this slip won't help at all. Not even Schopenhauer would have argued that way, in fact. Some things ring true, such as the fact that most women do make terrible leaders. But they're not inherently "politically stupid" towards the destruction of culture.

    Instead, they will just tend to vote with what seems to offer stability even if in it doesn't in the long run: Not getting raped & having your kids killed by the conqueror but instead being protected is what counted in the Stone Age and that's not only a long term question.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

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