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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Have we ever thought just why women voted for the Democrats, for instance? Perhaps we need to look at ourselves and our policies. Women were treated badly in the old days, no wonder they wanted a more liberal government.
    I see. Over here, back in the day, the socialists were against the right to vote for women, because their votes would've gone to the conservative (Catholic) party.

    On a side note: Hitler and Mussolini can not be defined as liberal by any means, and they received the overwhelming support of women in their time. Of course, national socialism modernized Germany, also in regards to women, but it's still remarkable.
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    Yes, there are plenty of left wing men who support anti-nationalist policies. Should men have their right to vote taken away, based on this?
    I the case of our current president, and other Chicago syndicate, mafia sorts of criminals.

    YES!

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    While men in the right wing scene complain about women's voting, millions of immigrants cast their ballot.
    I have no problem with white females voting in elections in the current era. Only problem is there are not enough of them to make a deference and the illegal aliens have the majority at this point in time.

    Realistically at this point I don’t think it really matters who votes, because from the Germanic's side in the US they have finally become outnumbered. The best thing Germanics can do is have lots of kids and attempt to form communities that will not be wiped out. But I don’t see that happening ether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    On a side note: Hitler and Mussolini can not be defined as liberal by any means, and they received the overwhelming support of women in their time. Of course, national socialism modernized Germany, also in regards to women, but it's still remarkable.
    Did women disproportionately vote for them as opposed to men? Also, for their time, they were rather liberal, particuarly on economic issues, prior to WWII Mussolini in particular was admired by liberals in other countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    Did women disproportionately vote for them as opposed to men?
    In july 1932, the NSDAP won the votes of 13.7 million German electors (among them 6.5 million women, although some sources suggest a higher number, claiming that even more than half of the NSDAP voters were female), some 37.3 per cent of all votes cast, making it the largest party in the Reich. Keep in mind that there were more German women than men at the time.

    A decent, in depth study dealing with the base of support for fascism and nazism is Michael Mann's book 'Fascists', 'Cambridge university press'.

    You might wanna have a look at this too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vistula
    Also, for their time, they were rather liberal, particuarly on economic issues, prior to WWII Mussolini in particular was admired by liberals in other countries.
    Yes, but all of this took place before the breakthrough of cultural marxism. Liberalism - in Europe at least - meant in those days first and foremost 'capitalism' (and classical, core values as citizenship, the right to vote, 'free speech'...), they weren't exactly advocating mass migration, neither did they proclaim an ultra progressive ethical agenda. Both Hitler and Mussolini received praise from these old school liberals because they rebuild and modernized their countries. Germany became a bulwark against a communist take over of the continent, something the English 'liberal' politicians were happy with. That was, of course, before the 're-occupation' of the Rhineland in 1936.
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    We should have the right to vote of course. We are the backbone of a nation because we are the ones who bear the children and support the men, who nutrite the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    In july 1932, the NSDAP won the votes of 13.7 million German electors (among them 6.5 million women, although some sources suggest a higher number, claiming that even more than half of the NSDAP voters were female), some 37.3 per cent of all votes cast, making it the largest party in the Reich. Keep in mind that there were more German women than men at the time.
    That's still less than half of their votes that came from women at a time when they made up well more than half of the electorate, meaning that they did not perform as well amongst women as amongst men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    That's still less than half of their votes that came from women at a time when they made up well more than half of the electorate, meaning that they did not perform as well amongst women as amongst men.
    I say that's an excellent result, the NSDAP was more attractive to women than most of the modern day nationalist parties (in Flanders only two or three out of every ten nationalist votes come from women) - and that in a time when women didn't vote as often as men. Also, the other parties didn't do better a job than the NSDAP luring women to the ballot boxes - and it's the combined vote of the conservative nationalists and the national socialists which made Hitler eventually chancellor.

    The next isn't NS friendly, but it still has to admit:

    Some historians have said that women voted the Nazis in. In fact this is very difficult to establish, because we have very little information about how women voted in the crucial period (1929-33). Voting was secret. However, in a few towns women’s and men’s votes were counted separately, and the answer seems to have been that women did tend to vote right-wing more than left-wing. Many women supported parties like the Centre or the Nationalists. It may be because these parties had similar approaches to law and order, the family or religion. The Nazi Party was not very different from them. At first more men than women voted Nazi, but by March 1933 about an equal number of men and women voted for them. ‘Existing studies of women in this period shed little light on why this should be so.’ But in any case the story that women particularly voted for Hitler is a myth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    (in Flanders only two or three out of every ten nationalist votes come from women)
    That alone ought to prove the point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chlodovech View Post
    I say that's an excellent result, the NSDAP was more attractive to women than most of the modern day nationalist parties...

    The next isn't NS friendly, but it still has to admit:

    Some historians have said that women voted the Nazis in. In fact this is very difficult to establish, because we have very little information about how women voted in the crucial period (1929-33). Voting was secret. However, in a few towns women’s and men’s votes were counted separately, and the answer seems to have been that women did tend to vote right-wing more than left-wing. Many women supported parties like the Centre or the Nationalists. It may be because these parties had similar approaches to law and order, the family or religion. The Nazi Party was not very different from them. At first more men than women voted Nazi, but by March 1933 about an equal number of men and women voted for them. ‘Existing studies of women in this period shed little light on why this should be so.’ But in any case the story that women particularly voted for Hitler is a myth.

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    At best, that means the womens' vote was a neutral factor for the NSDAP by March 1933, whereas it was a factor against them previously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blutwölfin View Post
    Idiots, brainless people, uneducated people shouldn't be allowed to vote; female as well as male idiots.
    Which means that most of the American population shouldn't be allowed to vote?

    *ducks objects being thrown in her direction*

    Seriously, I think that if we want to have a true democracy, everyone of a certain age must be able to vote. The problem lies in how the votes are counted and whether there is proportional representation. Oh, and whether or not you actually vote; if you don't, you don't have the right to complain about the results.
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