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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Regardless, in all European societies in recorded history, up until the 20th century, the political sphere has been dominated by males. And likewise, the sphere of the home and childrearing has been dominated by females. And no, I don't only look at 1950s America as the template for traditionalism.
    Up until "democrazy" the "political sphere" consisted of a king/emperor and his court minions. I dont think that the "people" should have a say at all, apart from probably local Things. A Nation belongs into the hands of someone who's raised and educated for the job, rather the life of king/emperor/leader, who're aware of his family's past who led the nation before him and in the awareness of the generations that will do, in his Dynasty's sense as the core and center of the nation, and in consciousness, in the future.

    All democracies died. In Greece only taxpaying citizens (roughly 5% of the population) were allowed to play democrazy, then Greece ceased to exist for ~1700 years. It was reinvented during the (northern European, the irony) Renaissance, also as a state. Democracy kills nations. Get it?

    What do you know about what I want? You're only attacking strawmen. Cut down on the delusion and prejudice.
    Doesnt belong into that thread, but I know enough of your posts to know that this is not a strawman.

    Doesn't matter. Ignorance or negligence is not an excuse for irresponsibility. If anything, it only strengthens my argument.
    No it doesnt. Jonaby destroyed your diatribe with actual data anyway, so maybe go have a look at it and maybe learn a thing or two (re delusion and prejudice).

    There are just as many men voting for Greens, the communist "social democrats" (specially this party is quite fundamentally male dominated both in the party as well as the voter base because it is the party of the Labour Unions/Gewerkschaften with all the heavy industry (IG Metall etc) in it), left parties as women. If you blame only the women for "ignorance", this is very one sided and not true anyway. Men are at the same level ignorant to what politics is up to and overall vote less than women anyway. So who's neglient?

    Not, that's ridiculous, and no one ever claimed that. The theory I've laid out previously is built upon the incremental effect that women's voting patterns have had on the political landscape, and consequently the state institutions, over time. Subsequently transforming educational institutions to favor typical female issues (liberal egalitarianism)
    And you whine about strawmen...

    which again impacts the political preferences of young generations growing up, leading to a steady political shift towards liberal egalitarianism among both sexes.
    Seriously, you really need to stop listening to freaks like Richard Spencer or Nick Fuentes, Milo and all the other freaks who constantly pour out such bullcrap "theories" and maybe start to talk to real people. Maybe not in Oslo or Stockholm, go out some kilometers and look what people are actually really like. They're not all degenerates, whores, gender freaks or whatever. Most people end up married with children, regardless of the "wild life" they had in their 20s maybe and become decent folks who just want to live their lives.

    THEY DONT CARE ABOUT POLITICS. None of them. Most people who vote for any party have never read the party program, never even visited their website, dont know more than 3 names of the party "prominence" if they arent in (((MSM TV))), or know more than the campaign slogans about what the "party stands for". And this has never been different. So if you want to affect change in voting habits, you need to go a long way, face to face, to wake them from their naivity slumber and that they even start noticing that maybe politics fucked them over.


    Seriously, how does "liberal egalitarianism" lead to mass migration and tranny hour in kindergardens? Oh it doesnt. Instead of blaming women, maybe start blaming the (((real culprits))) and their traitorous, greedy, usually male (and christian) enablers.


    Kind of illustrates the mentality of women. Only when you are successful and victorious, will they come dragging along and offer their appreciation. It doesn't matter what effort and sacrifice you put in it. As long as you're up against the system, and not currently on the winning team, you're just a scumbag who deserves contempt.
    Aren't you the one so in love with traditionalism? It's the story since times immemorial that the guy performs a heroic deed, usually against all odds, with which he earned the love of the woman and then they lived happily ever after.

    But of course, we can discuss the merits of not having a criminal record for "racism" while our countries are being overrun by 3d worlders... sure.


    I'm not a big fan of democracy, and it's no hill I'm willing to die on. All I'm saying is that the inclusion of women made it worse for our Peoples.
    Well, again, see jonaby's data. It got nothing to do with women voting. It has a lot to do with "conservatives" however, aiding big business that exports production jobs to cheap labour countries and imports cheap labour to keep your wages down.

    I'm sure the majority of European Nationalist Christians care more about the future of the German people than the vast majority of European Atheists and Pagans out there. You can either choose to appreciate and welcome that, or you can continue to disown them and use your religious differences as a wedge between you. I feel confident that the former is a more constructive and reasonable position.
    Christians have a moral obligation to show God’s care for all those who are marginalized, especially migrants and refugees, Pope Francis said.

    “This loving care for the less privileged is presented as a characteristic trait of the God of Israel and is likewise required, as a moral duty, of all those who would belong to his people,” the pope said in his homily Sept. 29 during an outdoor Mass for the 105th World Day of Migrants and Refugees.
    If they do care about our nations and people, they do so despite christianity, not because of it.
    Christian organisations and charities are at the forefront of breeding (since ~100 years) the overpopulation in Africa and elsewhere, christian organisations and charities are at the forefront on "assisting" their travel to Europe, and they're at the forefront on catering and welcoming and taking care of them when they're here. All with the active help and support of the faithful churchgoers who engage in their congregation. Who then also hand over the church to "refugees".

    I welcome everyone who stands against this, also christians (provided they keep their belief to themselves and dont try to missionise or, as is then mostly the case, that they try to make the case for "in order to fend off the muslim hordes we must become christian again", as if this was not a racial problem), but the handful christians who actually do you can count on one hand. And they do so despite and against their christian commandments.

    By the way, you continue to ignore my question about who and how people "dehumanize" women here. You've been claiming that nonsense for some time now, without giving an explanation for it, despite several requests to do so.
    How about the "thot audit" thread (or any other of that minus-niveau type, and tragically, we have many of that sort)? Go read it and maybe try to think about what some said there. Unfortunately I fear you wont even notice because (((Molineux))) & friends say that too, after all, and they're totally not /our guys/ but hey, who cares, they claim to be "conservatives".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeuSchwabe View Post
    Talking about Alfred, you might subconsciously refer to Rosenberg and his very conclusive "Myth of the 20. century" which shows the best example of a Nationalsocialist perspective of gender, race and religion. You might want to read it if you have not already.
    I would argue that Hans F. K. Guenther, who was endorsed by Hitler, possessed a superior grasp of Aryan religion than Rosenberg. It was confirmed by Hitler himself that Der Mythus is not an official representation of NS position, this wasn't just an excuse to placate the aggravated churches like with the catchphrase "Positive Christianity".

    As for the subject of women, I'll need to read up on Rosenberg's views to re-familiarize myself...

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    Just for those who support the idea:

    If we would take away (= ''steal'') the rights of voting from women ... what right(s) we would take away from men?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Just for those who support the idea:

    If we would take away (= ''steal'') the rights of voting from women ... what right(s) we would take away from men?
    White European men conquered, settled, and developed the civilized world. They could not have done this without white European women providing them with the support necessary to achieve this objective. Yet, somewhere along the way, the descendants of these white, European men have become virtually disenfranchised in the remarkably advanced world they continue to develop while being condemned by their own female counterparts, and hated by the non-whites they at least tried to generously share their unsurpassed culture and evolving technology with.

    Why did this catastrophe occur?
    Aside from an ever increasing number of mortals who have willfully chosen to worship Satan and his minions, our battle has always been against the powers and principalities operating surreptitiously throughout this twisted world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Just for those who support the idea:

    If we would take away (= ''steal'') the rights of voting from women ... what right(s) we would take away from men?
    I don't think one follows the other. Just because women lose one right, doesn't also mean men have to lose another right, for no other purpose but to make it "even". The case against women's suffrage is one based on desired outcome (how the female vote affects election results towards what many here, women included, would deem less beneficial for our Nations). So if the outcome of denying women the right to vote is for the common good, no other responsive measures should be necessary in order to justify it.

    That being said, strictly hypothetically, I would personally have liked to see stricter requirements on the right to vote (even for males), if we are going to have a democracy. Simply having managed to live to be 18 years old shouldn't be the sole requirement. Only people who have offered some sort of sacrifice to the Nation, and have some sort of stake in the continuation and wellbeing of the Nation, should be trusted with a vote. That can come by through many different requirements, for example through military service, or paying taxes over a certain amount, or a requirement to having produced children, and being a land- or homeowner. An IQ score over a certain threshold is not a bad idea either, nor is a more direct democracy, where there's a greater tendency towards voting for proposals/bills instead of parties/politicians.

    The idea is not to strip people of rights just to be "mean". The idea is to establish a political framework which has the best chance of creating and maintaining a healthy and prosperous society for all. Women included.

    As a side-note, I have long thought about the idea of dividing political authority along gender lines, by awarding men with the responsibility for security, economics, education, justice, the workplace, and infrastructure, and awarding women with the responsibility for healthcare, natural resources, ecology, culture and welfare. I don't know how well that would work in practice, but I think it could benefit from the general difference in proclivities between the sexes, while (hopefully) none of the sexes feel left out or oppressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    I don't think one follows the other. Just because women lose one right, doesn't also mean men have to lose another right, for no other purpose but to make it "even".
    Make it ''even''? That is always very hard between different matters. Agree? More like ... that is how the real world works ... to get something you will need to give something. Fair or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    As a side-note, I have long thought about the idea of dividing political authority along gender lines, by awarding men with the responsibility for security, economics, education, justice, the workplace, and infrastructure, and awarding women with the responsibility for healthcare, natural resources, ecology, culture and welfare. I don't know how well that would work in practice, but I think it could benefit from the general difference in proclivities between the sexes, while (hopefully) none of the sexes feel left out or oppressed.
    Why men and education? Who would be the pm? Always one who is charge of security or economics or justice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Just for those who support the idea:

    If we would take away (= ''steal'') the rights of voting from women ... what right(s) we would take away from men?
    The same of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeuSchwabe View Post
    The same of course.
    So no rights to vote at all (for anybody)? One kind of dictatorship?

    Ok, that could work ... as long as the person (who is in charge) is
    a.) wise,
    b.) noble,
    c.) willing/able to think what is good for his people (not only to himself).

    Unfortunately that kind of humans are rare and in the end ... power will corrupt. I equalize European old royal families (their positions) to these. And if the leader is ''bad'' ... it will be almost impossible to get rid of him.

    Nope, there are no good system. None.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Make it ''even''? That is always very hard between different matters. Agree?
    Yes. Even today, society is hardly even between the sexes. Women earn less over a life-time / men live shorter lives. Women are more often subject to rape / men end up childless and alone more often. And so on...

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    More like ... that is how the real world works ... to get something you will need to give something. Fair or not.
    Do you mean men have to offer something up in exchange for women giving up their right to vote? I don't believe it will ever come to that. The only way I see a male-only democracy being established again, is if society completely unravels and is thrown into civil war, and the victors deem women's suffrage to have been a considerable contributing factor to it transpiring. Consequently banning women from voting and the political sphere. The future will tell. And I honestly hope it will never come to that, but that women start shifting their political allegiances en masse towards ethnocentrism. So please prove me wrong, ladies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Why men and education? Who would be the pm? Always one who is charge of security or economics or justice?
    Women tend to seek consensus instead of swimming upstream, and men are by and large those who drive academia, technology and science forward.

    I don't care so much who the PM is. Perhaps one for each of the two "wings" of government.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonaby View Post
    While the white female vote is often closely split between the two major parties, white women have only voted more Democratic than Republican twice in the 17 U.S. Presidential elections since 1952 (in 1964 and 1996). Instead, it is the introduction and steady growth of minority voters in the U.S. electorate over the last six decades that drives higher overall proportions of female support for Democratic Party candidates.
    That is called 'moving the goal post'. The question was how women as a gender vote, not White women specifically. If we were talking about only the White vote, we'd be living in semi-White Nationalist countries by now.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    There are just as many men voting for Greens, the communist "social democrats" (specially this party is quite fundamentally male dominated both in the party as well as the voter base because it is the party of the Labour Unions/Gewerkschaften with all the heavy industry (IG Metall etc) in it), left parties as women. If you blame only the women for "ignorance", this is very one sided and not true anyway.
    If only men voted in Norway, we would have a fairly hardline Conservative/Civic-Nationalist majority government now, with a wing that flirts with ethnonationalism. Today, they can only form a government together with smaller liberalist parties, and have to give all sorts of concessions to their demands of continued immigration and multiculturalism. Same thing in Sweden. SD could probably form a government on their own if only males voted, and the election was held today.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Men are at the same level ignorant to what politics is up to and overall vote less than women anyway. So who's neglient?
    Women live longer than men, and older generations are more likely to vote, that's pretty much it.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    And you whine about strawmen...
    It's an observable, statistical fact. Women typically vote for more egalitarian and liberalistic policies.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Seriously, you really need to stop listening to freaks like Richard Spencer or Nick Fuentes, Milo and all the other freaks who constantly pour out such bullcrap "theories" and maybe start to talk to real people. Maybe not in Oslo or Stockholm, go out some kilometers and look what people are actually really like. They're not all degenerates, whores, gender freaks or whatever.
    Seriously, who the hell listens to Milo..? I had hoped you thought higher of me.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Seriously, how does "liberal egalitarianism" lead to mass migration and tranny hour in kindergardens? Oh it doesnt. Instead of blaming women, maybe start blaming the (((real culprits))) and their traitorous, greedy, usually male (and christian) enablers.
    It's a slippery slope. One thing leading to another. The parties who men typically vote for are the one's most vocally opposed to global-homo.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Aren't you the one so in love with traditionalism? It's the story since times immemorial that the guy performs a heroic deed, usually against all odds, with which he earned the love of the woman and then they lived happily ever after.
    All the while being shouted slurs at by the very people he tries to save? Never heard that story before.

    I recall some years ago, there was a Swedish hashtag trending on Twitter, in response to the migrant rape waves, going something along the lines of #hands.off.our.women. It gained some popularity, but nothing at all compared to all the Swedish women counter-signaling with #not.your.woman, coupled with a wide-spread condemnation of the "racist" initiative. Says a lot.

    I've even personally tried to save two female friends from a potentially threatening situation with two migrants, and all I got in appreciation, were accusations of being racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    How about the "thot audit" thread (or any other of that minus-niveau type, and tragically, we have many of that sort)? Go read it and maybe try to think about what some said there. Unfortunately I fear you wont even notice because (((Molineux))) & friends say that too, after all, and they're totally not /our guys/ but hey, who cares, they claim to be "conservatives".
    I'd much prefer you explaining the reason for your own claims, instead of my going through tens and tens of pages, in search for some answer for what you possibly could mean.

    And please leave poor old Molyneux out of it. He is innocent in all this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    So no rights to vote at all (for anybody)? One kind of dictatorship?

    Ok, that could work ... as long as the person (who is in charge) is
    a.) wise,
    b.) noble,
    c.) willing/able to think what is good for his people (not only to himself).

    Unfortunately that kind of humans are rare and in the end ... power will corrupt. I equalize European old royal families (their positions) to these. And if the leader is ''bad'' ... it will be almost impossible to get rid of him.

    Nope, there are no good system. None.
    So you support anarchy?

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