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Thread: Should Women Have the Right to Vote?

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    I think women should not have the vote. Without the vote they wouldn't be involved in politics - except perhaps as advocates for particular policies, but certainly not as elected politicians. In practice giving women the vote has resulted in the adoption of pro-Feminist policies, policies that promote a Feminist superiority agenda
    Of course women should have the vote!, if you reversed it we would eventually go back to chauvinism which has many of its own problems (although you are right about males being more pro-preservation as Skadi is 70% male to 30% female).

    I think we just need to achieve a better balance in today's male-hating world.

    I think that giving the vote to individuals of any sort is a bad idea because it accentuates the atomization of society. If you're going to have some sort of democratic system, I would rather see each household get one vote.
    That would be a good idea in theory, but unfortunately it would never work as many household votes are often split.

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    I have to admit I find the whole question of reconsidering women's suffrage as bizarre as, say, reconsidering the merits of indoor plumbing or modern tableware.
    How is that!
    LOL!
    is Women’s Suffrage an aspect of modernness?

    Personally I want a Fair Rational Patriarchy, which is overseen by a rational and Objective, Educated male population.

    Patriarchy offers the best situation for both men and women in the long run, and women for the most part have had plenty of power regardless of the male leadership of societies.

    As far as women having a vote, I think women should have an input into society and the way it is run, but im not sure as to what form that should take in the future.

    One thing I am sure of is that feminist should have NO SAY, in government what so ever, and not be allowed to hold office. They are essentially social engineering criminals, and should be treated as such.

    But at the same time we should insure that Anit-Feminism does not become anti-female, that would be reverse reactionary and or discriminatory.

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    Why is it not a good enough reason? The leftists are the ones who are taking away freedoms and property from people who deserve them and giving them to those who don't. It is because of them we are in the situation we are now and it is because of women that their parties have succeeded like they have. It looks like they haven't done anything for the interests of family and preservation. I fail to see why we should keep feeding the flame. Why does society need women's vote?

    Let's assume for a minute that individuals aged less than 50 years old are found to vote "alongside minorities, gays, immigrants, etc. for the least conservative policies." Would you suggest restricting the vote to individuals of at least 50 years of age?
    Yes. Actually, that is, more or less, already true, with people less than around 30 years being the least conservative; so, there isn't much to assume. After a certain age, people are more steady in their beliefs, have matured more, seen and experienced more, and know the responsibility of having a career, marriage and chilren. My faith much better rests in them to have sound judgement, but replace "individuals" with "men" and things would be on an even better road.

    Being a woman yourself, you actually feel you are ill-equipped to express your views at the ballot? Astonishing. Voting for something is merely expressing your views. Your views are heard here on Skadi, do you feel they are inferior to those of men?
    No. Just because I am against women's suffrage does not mean I lack confidence in myself. I do, however, lack confidence in the majority of women and know a great deal of them do harm casting their ballot. I feel that women have failed with their right to vote, and like all who clearly show they cannot handle the responsibility of something properly or well, they should not be given that responsibility again. Like I said, exceptions don't make the rules. I'd gladly give up my vote if all other women had to. I'd gladly vote to put an end to women's suffrage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anfang View Post
    More detail here please. How do you consider the four personalities you gave to be similar?
    Myself, along with other women on Skadi, as well as the few female voters and politicians that have aided our cause are in the minority, and it will probably take many more years and mistakes before they are not. It ain't worth it. Letting men have the vote would be the surest, fastest way to better the future for our children.

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    Not just men Deary, the Right men. We don’t need any more left wing organized criminals.

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    How is that!
    LOL!
    is Women’s Suffrage an aspect of modernness?
    Not Wome's Sufferage but germanic Women's becomming. ("Zu werden")

    Personally I want a Fair Rational Patriarchy, which is overseen by a rational and Objective, Educated male population.
    This seems to work for Orthodox Jews, maybe you are in the wrong camp.


    Patriarchy offers the best situation for both men and women in the long run, and women for the most part have had plenty of power regardless of the male leadership of societies.
    In English please. That is a rather nebulous statement.



    One thing I am sure of is that feminist should have NO SAY, in government what so ever, and not be allowed to hold office. They are essentially social engineering criminals, and should be treated as such.
    Here you go again. do I have to link to the tread post that you did not answer before? You make statements about "Feminism" without knowing anything about the different aspects of it. I would be ashamed to make such statements if I were you. to write with authority about something you are not very knowledgeable about, is very questionable.

    Here is the post you din not answer=
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    Feminist wanted to do without individuality, and gender is a reflection of an individuals character. Feminist were essential Marxist, using “Women’s Liberation” as a ruse to gain ground on non socialist societies.
    Again, not correct, I am sorry but I do not see the point of posting opinions without a knowledge base to work from.

    1) Feminists are not against "Individuality", wrong.

    2)There are Matriarchist feminists who believe in setting separate communities, Anarchist feminists, Christian feminists, post Modern feminists and Religious feminists who believe in woman centered religions as well as Marxist feminists. The radical feminists are themselves split into several camps, including marxists - "post marxist liberals" Separatist lesbians . Not to mention the weirdo "transgendered males who have chopped their penises of and subscribe to "Queer theory" . These dudes who mutilate themselves and become legally women (although they should be arrested for this crime against humanity), theorize themselves "a new woman". There are also capitalist white feminists, and black power feminists.
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    But at the same time we should insure that Anit-Feminism does not become anti-female, that would be reverse reactionary and or discriminatory.
    I think you are anti woman, and it is unhealthy.

    Feminism itself is a word that is used losely. To equate germanic Women's
    growth and strength in the World as feaminist is like equating Germanics with "White". There are plenty of "White" Albanians, Russians, and maditerreanians.

    Who would I accept as a District Leader in A Gau where I lived in, a 100% Germanic competent Volkisch female or a mischmoshed 1/4 Irish 2/4 german 1/4 who- knows what "American" with the typical American low brow Jewish influenced media aquiered world view ? Guess

    If such a "germanic" male was made leader in my town I would leave it.
    Last edited by Anfang; Sunday, December 14th, 2008 at 08:31 AM. Reason: Edited to add last paragraph

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordOfTheVistula View Post
    Politicians are individuals, voters are a large class of people. There's probably a few Turks, high school students, and prison inmates in Germany who could run the country quite competently, especially as opposed to the current regime, but I don't imagine you would want to extend voting votes rights to these classes of people.
    Don't compare Turks to women, they're foreigners. I wouldn't accept competent people from other countries. German women are my kind, they're not alien to me or Germany, they're neither criminals and I was having adult women in thought. I don't think a teen or inmate could run a country when they have proven they can't run their own lives properly. Adult women can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I don't understand. Men have voted for the same parties that women have. Sure, the female vote is more to the liberal side in elections it seems, but not so much so, that an all-male vote would have changed the world. I very much doubt it. It's not the fault of female suffrage that we are in the current mess.

    Adopting your argument above, men should also not be given the responsibility to vote.
    Many persons waste their vote by voting for the apparent leader in the polls or by not voting if their candidate doesn't appear to have chance of winning. Having a large block of voters such as women (more left leaning then men) gives the left an electoral edge, discouraging votes for candidates on the right. If nothing else, the higher proportion of women voting for the left cancels out the votes of males voting for the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anfang View Post
    Not Wome's Sufferage but germanic Women's becomming. ("Zu werden")
    "Zu werden" is not German, the English "to" before a verb does not exist in German. To make errors when speaking in a non-native language is bound to happen, however the sense of translating something into German on an English speaking forum escapes me, at least make sure it is correct if you want to make a point with it.
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    The short response is an astounding NO! Women most definitely should not have the 'right' to vote.

    I tell this to my wife all the time, who rolls her eyes at me and votes anyway.

    The (slightly) longer response is that really no one should have this ridiculous 'right,' which amounts to nothing other then modern day mass hysteria and tyranny.

    In the long run, democracy will be much more harmful then communism and will lead to a complete inversion of all established values of chivalry, as Edmund Burke astutely pointed out regarding the Jacobin revolution.

    Modernity is one long testament to this fact.

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