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    Question German Invasion of Denmark, Holland, etc.?

    This is a historical question about World War II. On Stormfront, there tends to be an anti-German bias, and the flag-wavers and God Bless America crowd is constantly heaping derision on Germany. Now, the claim that Hitler started the conflicts with Britain, France, the USSR and the United States is ridiculously easy to refute. Now they are using 'smaller' arguments about Hitler invading less powerful countries needlessly. The examples cited are Greece, Holland, Denmark and Norway. Greece was a situation where he had to assist Mussolini after his bungling had gotten the Italian troops bogged down there. I am told that Holland was for all intents and purposes an Ally, and was funding the Allied war effort. I have also heard that Norway was allowing Britain to stage submarine bases in its fjords, again making it a de facto ally. Denmark, though, I am not sure about. Does anyone know why the Germans felt it necessary to invade/occupy these countries? Hitler knew he was already up against long odds; I don't think he would have made additional enemies unless it were absolutely necessary....?
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    The only pieces I've read were fairly neutral about these invasions, the Denmark invasion in particular I think was liberation of germans. Germans made up a large % of satellite nation's populations, invasion was to liberate them from nations that would treat the german ethnic population poorly because of the situation brought on by the conflict.

    On a different note, I just met face to face another White Nationalist for the first time, he informed me on some of his background. The waffen SS as we know was made up of volunteers from many nations, England, France etc I think I read 1million, of which only 0.4million were germans. His father was in the Ukrainian legion, it was so big that it was not a division but an entire army. I think most nations had to oppose the Germans due to politics, but their people definately were choosing sides. Invasion of a nation was always a short event. People knew what the commisaars were doing, especially after Poland but in Russia before that, so I think "invasion" was really just liberation.

    x_cheers

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    Now, the claim that Hitler started the conflicts with Britain, France, the USSR and the United States is ridiculously easy to refute.

    Sure, it were the Soviets with cartoon planes, lightly armored rusty wheel "tanks", 1 rifle per 3 soldiers and population on the brink of rebellion who invaded first.

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    Originally posted by Ross
    Now, the claim that Hitler started the conflicts with Britain, France, the USSR and the United States is ridiculously easy to refute.

    Sure, it were the Soviets with cartoon planes, lightly armored rusty wheel "tanks", 1 rifle per 3 soldiers and population on the brink of rebellion who invaded first.
    Have you read something or heard something that states the USSR instigated or invaded 1st. Tell us more...

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    Post Re: Tell us more!!!

    Originally posted by Saxon88
    Have you read something or heard something that states the USSR instigated or invaded 1st. Tell us more...
    What do you want to learn exactly?

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    Hitler's "European Tour" was mainly to "liberate" germans from otehr countries, as the others have said, and to create lebensraum, or "Living Space" for germans, to expand Germania's borders.

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    Post Re: German invasion Denmark

    Originally posted by Saxon88
    The only pieces I've read were fairly neutral about these invasions, the Denmark invasion in particular I think was liberation of germans. Germans made up a large % of satellite nation's populations, invasion was to liberate them from nations that would treat the german ethnic population poorly because of the situation brought on by the conflict.

    What the hell are you talking about?

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    "Germany must reckon with its two hateful enemies, England and France."

    --Adolf Hitler....in 1938

    "The victor shall not be asked later on whether we were telling the truth or not. In starting and making a war, not the right is what matters, but victory."

    ---Adolf Hitler, May 1939

    "... Breach of the neutrality of Belgium and Holland is meaningless. No one will question that when we have won we shall not bring about a breach of neutrality as in 1914."

    --Adolf Hitler, November 1939 (Note: Germany had non-aggression pacts with both of those states)

    "No war could be carried on if the Navy was not able to safeguard the ore imports from Scandinavia."

    --Adolf Hitler, November 1934

    Germany had signed a Non-Aggression pact with DENMARK on the 31st of May, 1939.

    Hitler's view of treaties is the following:

    "Considerations of right or wrong or treaties do not enter into the matter."


    "The signing of a pact between two great nations is a solemn act"

    --Hitler, speaking about the Germano-Soviet treaty

    "If new territory were to be acquired in Europe it must have been mainly at Russia’s cost, and once again the new German Empire should have set out on its march along the same road as was formerly trodden by the Teutonic Knights, this time to acquire soil for the German plough by means of the German sword and thus provide the nation with its daily bread."

    Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1924.


    The problem with German Supremacists, or National Socialists in the German mold, is that they never seem willing to say Germany is responsible for ANYTHING in WWII.

    Often times I see a lot of parallels between people like Wehrmacht and the Jews. The Jews say they are persecuted for no reason throughout history, as do the Germanic Supremacists. Germany's white neighbors were the victims of its aggression.

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    Originally posted by Johnson
    Hitler's "European Tour" was mainly to "liberate" germans from otehr countries, as the others have said, and to create lebensraum, or "Living Space" for germans, to expand Germania's borders.

    At the cost of other whites, though. And Germany was more than willing to sell out Germans when it was inconvenient to 'liberate' them, such as in the Baltic or in Tyrol.

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    And Germany was more than willing to sell out Germans when it was inconvenient to 'liberate' them, such as in the Baltic or in Tyrol.
    Examples please? x_nono

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