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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horned God View Post
    The problem with this kind of study hovever, is that doesn't tell us why red meat raises mortality.
    Alas, it appears the same Harvard study team has revealed more
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    On Monday, researchers at the Harvard School of Public Health released study results showing that red meat consumption was associated with a higher risk of early death. The more red meat -- beef, pork or lamb, for the purposes of the research -- study participants reported they ate, the more likely they were to die during the period of time that data collection took place (more than 20 years).

    So what is it in red meat that might make it unhealthy?

    No one is sure, exactly, but the authors of the Harvard study mention a few possible culprits in their paper in the Archives of Internal Medicine.

    First, eating red meat has been linked to the incidence of heart disease. The saturated fat and cholesterol in beef, pork and lamb are believed to play a role in the risk of coronary heart disease. The type of iron found in red meat, known as heme iron, has also been linked to heart attacks and fatal heart disease. Sodium in processed meats may increase blood pressure, which is a risk factor for heart disease. Other chemicals that are used in processed meats may play a role in heart disease as well, by damaging blood vessels.

    Red meat has also been linked to increased risks of colorectal and other cancers. Again, heme iron could be a culprit — it is more easily absorbed into the body than other forms of iron, and can cause oxidative damage to cells — as could compounds that are created when meat is cooked at a high temperature. Preservatives used in processed meats also may play a role, scientists have said, because they convert into carcinogenic compounds in the body.
    http://www.latimes.com/health/booste...0,181706.story
    Quote Originally Posted by TheHornedGod
    It could be the case for instance that it doesn't raise mortality until someone passes the age of 50, 60 or beyond.
    Perhaps so, the older you age, the less efficient your body becomes all around in burning fat (which in accumulation leads to heart and blood complications), and all the years of habit of eating red meat frequently will run its course.

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    So if I wrap my bacon around some chicken that makes it healthy? Good to know.

    But on a more serious note, how do they factor in that people who do listen do dietary experts and eat as recommended are, perhaps, more likely to listen to their doctors or even more likely to visit their doctors at the first sign of trouble?

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    I know the animal(s) are suffering with this modern day 'process line' of the cattle trucks to the slaughter house. I live near the train line that goes up to the local knocker box...the smell is rather obvious to the stress that these poor cows are suffering. YET...I the hypocrite still eats their tortured flesh within my cooking I at least try to cook the poor dead beast well.

    This isn't even mentioning pigs, sheep, chickens...it is horrible. I've never eaten a turkey or duck. I know I should go vegetarian, but I admit I hunger for meat.

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    Any wonder why these overtly vegetarian and vegan lifestyles in general are being pushed by mostly liberal types? To turn us into a bunch of weak, grass eating pussies with an aversion and fear of death? Not eating meat will definitely have an effect on us as a race in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renownedwolf View Post
    Any wonder why these overtly vegetarian and vegan lifestyles in general are being pushed by mostly liberal types? To turn us into a bunch of weak, grass eating pussies with an aversion and fear of death? Not eating meat will definitely have an effect on us as a race in the long run.
    No, it's a Nazi conspiracy. They want you to stay off meat so that you become more like Hitler. He was after all a vegan whose only vice seems to have been tea and cookies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    No, it's a Nazi conspiracy. They want you to stay off meat so that you become more like Hitler. He was after all a vegan whose only vice seems to have been tea and cookies.
    Don't forget his drug use

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    Yes, it is processed food that is poison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hersir View Post
    Don't forget his drug use
    That was for medicinal purposes only.

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