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    There are quite a few Spanish sites with hollow earth discussions, among other things, found these images rather interesting:






    Let this roll around in your walnut for a second. It used to be the most freaky concept around, and only seconds ago when measured in earthly civilization’s time. All sorts of immediately handy arguments were stoning you before you could even get halfway through the points you wanted to make, back then, about the Earth being round. You were actually burned at the stake, and it was not fun.

    Switch back to the Hollow Earth of today. “Woowoo land” you say, “through and through, complete nonsense – impossible – we would know about it – give me a break – they can’t keep a secret like this – what about the satellite photos – what about gravity – what about that other thing – are you saying you are wasting your time with this?” … and so on.

    Look at it as the best-kept secret ever – for now. Rumors and even evidence of it abound, but no official statements or photos are shown at school, university, or prime-time teevee. Actually, that is not true. See the case of Admiral Richard Evelyn Byrd (US Navy) and many other sober people further down the Hollow Earth path.

    The Ultimate ‘Did You Know That … Never Mind’

    Here is a list of the wide range of evidence which we will now present to the un- believing outer earth visitors who want to know why they have never heard about the Hollow Earth before, and feel that they have been somewhat left out.

    Concepts

    All planets are spheres, not only the Earth: the Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, the Sun itself
    Standard planetary formation theories: how were they formed, what made them spin, and still does: completely woowoo
    A massive planetary body with an incandescent and progressively cooling core would crack into pieces while cooling and shrinking
    Gaseous planetary bodies like the sun and the large planets of our solar system can not generate a magnetic field; but they all have one
    All the solar system’s outer planets emit more energy than they receive from the sun
    A spinning planetary body in formation has zero gravity in its center, so mass does accumulate where gravitational and centrifugal forces are balanced within the area of the spinning matter, and that form would be a sphere with openings at the top and bottom, like a hurricane of matter in space – not as a solid body with a solid center (the center has zero gravity)
    If planets were formed from cosmic dust which started to condense into a body like Earth, then the angular momentum would still continue to increase, which it doesn’t – the earth’s spin is steady, not slowing down or speeding up
    Larger planets with more mass should spin more slowly than smaller planets with less mass – but they don’t: the largest, Jupiter, spins a lot faster (once every 10 hours) than Mercury, which is just a tiny fraction the size of Jupiter and needs 58 Earth days for one spin around its axis

    General Observations

    Both Earth and Moon ring hollow for hours after struck with meteorites, as measured by seismic stations on Earth and on the Moon* Earthquakes do not occur deeper than 450 miles, but down there, the supposedly molten magma would not create and release friction via earthquakes – a viscous or molten mass equalizes tension, it does not accumulate tension because it is flexible
    Gravity experiments in mine shafts show that the balls pointing to the center of gravity point away from the center of the Earth, instead of towards it, as measured by the distance at the top and bottom of two lead balls hanging from very long wires into a mine shaft
    … Odd …” would inspector Clouseau say

    Observations at the Earth’s poles: welcome to Mr. Woo’s pole anomalies

    The temperature, as one gets past a certain latitude, increases as one approaches the poles, which is not supposed to happen; arctic (and in less cases, antarctic) explorers have reported in their ship’s logs to have taken off their climate gear (this was before Goretex)
    Floating flora and fauna near the northern polar region’s ocean: seeds, flowers and trees are found at latitudes where none should be, and they are often very fresh, not decomposed from many months of floating in the ocean currents that might have brought them from far away
    Spiders, bees, mosquitos, moths and flies were found once past the cold and icy region below the north pole; northern Greenland is the mosquito capital of the world
    Many bird species in the northern hemisphere migrate north – before winter; birds in the southern hemisphere migrate south in their winter, too – if the poles are the coldest regions, it makes no sense, but flocks of millions of birds like the auk have been observed doing this, and they must have a very good reason
    Presence of seal, auk, goose, seagull, duck, rabbit, wolf, fox, bear and other large animals at extreme northern latitudes (the exploration of Antarctica is much more scarce compared to Arctic explorers)
    The origin of icebergs: around the north pole, they are made of frozen sweetwater – not frozen saltwater. There is little if any precipitation of rain or snow (sweetwater) in the polar regions. Saltwater freezes to sea ice at low enough temperatures. There is no supply of sweetwater to explain the existence of icebergs which are hundreds of feet high, up to hundreds of miles long and dozens of miles wide* Icebergs around the north pole are colored by red pollen of an unknown plant, as well as dust – a lot of it; including earth material on top of them
    Massive wave-like or tidal movements in the arctic polar region have been witnessed by many explorers, waves which cracked and moved the ice floes around the explorer’s ships in a very, very major way that had their hair stand on end
    Floating and deposited driftwood (including exotic species) is extremely abundant and sometimes stacked 15 feet/5m high along the coasts in the polar region of Spitzbergen and Greenland, up to 86 degrees latitude north
    Mammoth, elephant, woolly rhinoceros, hippopotamus, lion and hyena have been found in the ice from the north pole that is also deposited on the coasts of Siberia; entire forests of mammoth ivory have been found there
    The stomach content of (un)frozen mammoth has been found to contain tropical (undigested) plants that do not occur anywhere in the northen polar region; supposedly, the last time the mammoths were clomping around was during the last Ice Age (not the Pixar animation films 1, 2 or 3), but many were found with their (un)frozen meat good enough to give it to the sled dogs in Siberia for dinner (or late lunch) [Note from the editor: If these mammoths came out of Inner Earth via the huge freshwater rivers that flow outwards and freeze as they pass the northern polar opening, then the theory of a massive crustal shift of the Earth which supposedly transported mammoths who had been peacefully chomping on tropical plants way up north, in two days, causing them to insta-freeze as a result of a polar reversal, has one argument less; see Charles Hapgood, Maurice Cotterell, Patrick Geryl, Clif High and others]

    Instrument Anomalies at the Earth’s poles

    Approaching the magnetic pole, the compass needle points down towards the dial – and passing the “horizon”, where the surface or Earth curves inward at the poles, like an apple into its center, only much more pronounced – the compass needle starts pointing up, behaving now like a vertical and not a horizontal instrument
    The magnetic north pole is not a specific point, it is a large area around the geographic north or south poles, which do not exist as solid points on a surface, they are points in empty space; magnetic and geographic poles have a different axis, as you know; the compass stops working in a horizontal plane, and actually indicates the location of a magnetic “pole” over a vast area. You can circle the area around the geographic pole and always get a “north” readingwith the compass. In short, there is no specific point, but an area where magnetic “north” or “south” is shown with a compass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeraat View Post
    From what I gather, that is just the thing, a molten core cannot account for the strong magnetism or its great variation. That is why a solid core is more likely, there is even a theory of a core within the core. What the Hollow-earthers is saying is that a sun like object running on nuclear fusion could provide such strong magnetic forces, but how that works I dont know.
    A molten core is the only thing which can account for earth's magnetic field. The earth really does not need the sun to generate a magnetic field although the interaction between the two magnetic fields will induce eddy currents in both the earth and the sun. The sun may have originally kick-stated earth's magnetic field though.

    This is all a matter of induction. When a conductor moves through a magnetic field, electricity is induced. An electric current itself has a magnetic field. The earth's molten core is made of an iron-nickel mixture which is both magnetic and a conductor. The molten core is in constant motion. This is because the earth is in constant motion via rotation. But the molten core does not all rotate at the same speed. The outer portion rotates at one speed, faster, and the inner core rotates more slowly. Each qualifies to induce electric current while interacting with the other. In fact, each is a generator. But it is the interaction of the two, the induction of electricity when the two interact which produces the massive amounts of electricity needed for the magnetic field.

    Now in reality there are more than two core speeds. There are pockets and islands, all inducing their own fields and eddy currents. An eddy current can be seen when two refrigerator-type magnets are moved past each other in close proximity. You feel a drag, a sticky feeling. This is one magnet, a conductor, moving through the magnetic field of the other magnet, a conductor, so that both magnets now have a current running around inside them. This electric current also has a magnetic field and the two interact as we are accustomed to witnessing magnets interact.

    In reality, any conductor will do the same thing even if it is not a magnet. So a piece of steel or iron moving past a magnet causes and electric current within the iron or steel, causing it to become an electromagnet, a temporary magnet dependent upon an electric current.

    Induction via a molten core has an optimal speed of rotation. Too slow and the induction and so magnetic field are weak. Too fast and the drag caused by the viscosity of the molten metal cannot keep up with the speed or rotation. When this happens, believe it or not, the magnetic field reorganizes itself. It stops momentarily and then reverses. This is what happens when the earth's magnetic field reverses every two million years or so. Think of passing an American football. Some believe it is the two interacting molten masses which become out of balance and cause this reversal. Exactly what causes the reversal is a bit of a mystery but not the fact that it comes from a speed imbalance.

    Since, as you mentioned, the sun's magnetic field and the earth's magnetic field interact, the interaction (eddy currents) serves to regulate the mechanical speed of earth's rotation.

    Now just to confuse things, a moving magnet actually does not need another magnetic field or conductor to induce an electric current. A disc shaped metal magnet can be put on a shaft and set spinning. A brush, (an electrical pickup rubbing against the disc) can be placed at the center, by the shaft and on the edge of the magnet. If the two brushes are connected and an electric load is in place (like a lightbulb) an electric current is induced because each of the brush connections has a different charge. One is positive, the other negative. The light goes on. This is called a homopolar generator and it was from this technology it was learned about the flipping poles.

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    HOLLOW PLANET HISTORY

    Sir Edmund Halley (1656-1742, Halley’s Comet) – Halley’s most controversial theory originated from his study of magnetism. Halley realized that the magnetic poles were constantly moving. He believed this could be explained by having two fixed magnetic poles (north and south) in the crust of a hollow earth, and two more inside which were moving. He envisaged hollow spheres, one inside the other, rotating at slightly different speeds. One of these inner shells would contain the other set of magnetic poles. If that shell rotated slightly slower than the outermost shell, then that might account for the apparent motion of two of the magnetic poles while the other two stood still.

    Halley speculated on whether there might be life inside these shells. Since God had created “animate beings” which inhabited every part of the Earth as we know it, why should He not therefore have also caused the interior of these shells to be habited? He suggested that the atmosphere might be luminous, or the inner sides of the spheres might emit light, or there might even be small Suns inside the Earth which he referred to as: “peculiar Luminaries below, of which we have no sort of Idea.” Many of the core features of the Hollow Earth theory were born out of Halley’s speculations.

    Could there be any logical reason for thinking that a planet might be hollow? The only possibility which comes to mind is that a spinning sphere might become hollow naturally. This was originally suggested to me by John Flora, who joined my Internet list. His argument is as follows: Scientists believe stars and planets formed from huge clouds of dust in space. Gravity caused them to condense. Then they started spinning and eventually became spheres. If this is the case then, like an ice skater, these stars and planets would have spun ever faster as they contracted. This would be dictated by the law of conservation of angular momentum. However, the solar system tells a different story.

    It is not the smallest planets which spin the fastest, but the largest ones. The Earth rotates om 24 hours, and many of the planets smaller than it rotate even slower. Jupiter, the largest planet, which has a diameter more than ten times that of the Earth spins about its axis in a mere 10 hours. This is not what one would expect from condensed, solid planets. John pointed out that this is also true of the different types of stars. The larger ones spin faster than the smaller ones. He believes that it can be shown mathematically that a high rate of rotation would cause a spherical body to expand until it reaches a point of maximum inertial stability.

    In an e-mail dated 15 Feb 1998, he explained in part,

    “As I said earlier, the maximum moment of inertia for a rotating sphere to spin stably is that of a hollow sphere. . .”

    He suggested that the planets and stars be regarded as “tornadoes in space.” He explained:

    “This smaller size – slower rotation, bigger size – faster rotation relationship of planets and stars rotations is exactly what you would think if the planets and stars were created hollow however!"

    Because, according to spherical shell dynamic theory, the planets and stars were created out of convection currents between warm and cool regions of space, swirling the particles into whirling, twirling tornadoes of particles. In the zero-gravity of space these tornadoes took on the shape of spheres with open poles, and the faster they were rotating, the larger they became! John’s logic also suggests that Hollow Planets must have Polar Holes of some kind. He pointed out that there was a point at which centrifugal force and gravity balance. Gravity, (as we shall see later, is zero at the centre of the Earth (or any hollow sphere). All mathematical exercises show that if one could suspend an object at the centre of the Earth, then it would be weightless. So when a forming planet rotates, the matter at its core will be flung away from the centre. Gravity however, increases as one moves away from the centre of a planet because there is more matter “below” it. So a point is reached whereupon gravity is stronger than the centrifugal force, and the expansion then stops. One thus ends up with a hollow spinning sphere.

    Hollow Moon?

    The idea of Hollow Planets seems to have found a home for itself among Russian scientists more than anybody else. In this century Russians have twice suggested that planetary bodies might be hollow. The first was the suggestion that one of the moons of Mars was hollow. The second was when two senior scientists from the Soviet Academy of Sciences (as it was then known) suggested that our Moon was hollow. In the mid-1970s Vasin and Shcherbakov from the Soviet Academy of Sciences suggested that the Moon was a huge alien spaceship! No one really knows how the Moon came into being. If the Moon and Earth formed together in orbit, why are the surface materials of these two worlds so dissimilar? There are also some rocks found on the Moon which might be older than the Earth.

    Perhaps the Moon came from elsewhere? Perhaps even from outside our solar system. Many scientists have suggested that. But here Newtonian gravity becomes the problem. According to all calculations and models produced by scientists, the chances of a successful capture of the Moon by the Earth as a mere random event is one in billions. How could the Earth have captured the Moon against such odds? That is why these two Russian scientists suggested that the Moon was steered into orbit by intelligent beings – who perhaps are no longer around. Or perhaps they still live there inside the Moon? Why a hollow Moon then? Apollo 12 placed the first seismometer on an alien world. NASA did not expect many Moon quakes. They expected the Moon to be seismically dead.

    To ensure some kind of seismic results they deliberately caused part of a rocket to crash into the Moon. When they did this, the results astounded all the theoreticians. The Moon’s behavior was quite unexpected. It “rang like a bell” for almost an hour. Scientists were quite stunned at the time. It may interest the Reader to know that in 1959 a prominent Russian astronomer produced spectrographs showing what he believed was a volcanic eruption which he detected on the Moon. There is indeed more activity on the Moon than we used to think.

    The Moon is definitely not as geologically dead as one may think. We now know that Moon quakes occur with clock-work regularity.

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    Inner Earth Civilizations Exist and I Can Prove It: Agartha & Hollow Earth


    What is postulated here makes the working of the the Foo-fighters much more plausible.
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    The things that Byrd is rumored to have written in his diary regarding what the "master" had to say about atomic warfare sounds allot like the stuff that Billy Meyer claimed was said to him by the "pleiadians"...
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    One of the reasons we stopped going to the moon is we were no longer welcome there supposedly.
    The whole hollow earth thing is interesting but I don't believe the earth could be hollow.
    That doesn't mean there aren't caverns I suppose.

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    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Okay so I watched 10 minutes of the last video you posted, Bittereinder, and the speaker seriously references:

    - The idea the Earth is flat.
    - The idea that the Earth is completely hollow.
    - The idea that there are giant portals to another world somewhere down there.
    - The idea that there are cities full of giant human hybrids living in underground caverns.



    Come on, isn't it obvious that these guys are scam artists who make a living pitching conspiracy theories? This particular one is obviously just a rip off of Stargate fused with Jules Verne's most famous novel:



    It's a great novel, but for obvious physical reasons, the Earth can't have giant illuminated caverns (gravity would cause them to collapse in on themselves). Besides, these sort of conspiracies make us look silly.

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