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    The thread ought to be entitled "The British Roots of Metal", or more generally "The White Roots of Metal". "Aryan" is a meaningless term outside of India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telperion
    The thread ought to be entitled "The British Roots of Metal", or more generally "The White Roots of Metal". "Aryan" is a meaningless term outside of India.
    Technicalities aside Aryan is a romantic term for a noble white European Stirpe. Even Yeats used the term in his books before it became demonised by the Post war capitalists and multiculturalists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Nationalist
    Technicalities aside Aryan is a romantic term for a noble white European Stirpe. Even Yeats used the term in his books before it became demonised by the Post war capitalists and multiculturalists
    I know how the term has been used historically. I don't personally care for its use in this "romantic" sense, though, because disregarding technicalities tends to promote careless and incoherent thinking. Rigorous attention to detail is an important trait for the promotion of an orderly and disciplined mind.

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    Well

    Well its used to describe those who use indo european languages which are to my knowledge Celtic, Tuetonic, Persian and latin. Correct me if Im wrong.

    Merriam Webster Dictionary :-D

    Aryan

    Function: adjective
    Etymology: Sanskrit Arya noble, belonging to the people speaking an Indo-European dialect who migrated into northern India
    1 : INDO-EUROPEAN
    2 a : of or relating to a hypothetical ethnic type illustrated by or descended from early speakers of Indo-European languages b : NORDIC c -- used in Nazism to designate a supposed master race of non-Jewish Caucasians having especially Nordic features
    3 : of or relating to Indo-Iranian or its speakers

    Indo European
    Function: adjective
    : of, relating to, or constituting the Indo-European languages

    Indo European languages
    Function: noun plural
    : a family of languages comprising those spoken in most of Europe and in the parts of the world colonized by Europeans since 1500 and also in Persia, the subcontinent of India, and some other parts of Asia

    and then it goes on to this ...
    http://www.m-w.com/mw/table/indoeuro.htm

    Which lists all the Indo Eurpean Languages which include basicly everything from western Europe to India

    You will see from that table that their is no mention of any Jewish language except Yiddish. And thats a bastardised geramnic language anyway.

    I.E. its not semetic.

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    Rob halford of Judas priest is gay. Is his behaviour befitting of the term aryan?

    Ozzy osbourne was a junkie, is his behaviour befitting of the term aryan?

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    I've split this thread because my meddling sent it rather off-topic from the original post.

    My understanding is that Anthropologists and Linguists only use the term "Aryan" to refer to the "Indo-Aryans", who were an eastern branch of the Indo-Europeans. There is no valid anthropological or linguistic basis for describing the western Indo-Europeans as "Aryans".

    This means the scientifically correct use of the term is noted in the 3rd dictionary definition of the term. The 1st and 2nd definitions aren't scientifically proper, but the dictionary notes that the term "Aryan" is often used in this way - after all, being a dictionary, its concern is to help the reader understand how words are used in practice by English speakers, not how they ought to be used from a more narrowly scientific standpoint.

    So, call me pedantic if you like, but I stand by my view that only Indo-Aryans should properly be called "Aryans".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Nationalist
    Rob halford of Judas priest is gay. Is his behaviour befitting of the term aryan?

    Ozzy osbourne was a junkie, is his behaviour befitting of the term aryan?
    I suppose behaviour most befitting of the term "Aryan" is that prescribed for members of the Brahmin caste. Therefore, the behaviour of these individuals probably doesn't qualify.

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    I know, im fed up with seeing "Aryan" listed as an ethnicity or race on some of these forums, and the resulting "Arwan wace must fight brack !" crap :rrofl

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    Telperion's right. Arayan refers to the Indo-Iranians, and not to northern Europeans.

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    I was talking about Northern Europeans who use the term, the whole Nazi Aryan thing has made it the definition for blonde haired blue eyed fair people all over the place to some people.

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