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    more on this

    A few links:

    Some useful info on the Armanen Futharkh can be found on this site, be ready to sift through a bunch of weird advertisements though.
    http://www.runemagick.com/

    Some slightly different rune meanings than those on the link provided by Blutwölfin.
    http://www.aepalizage.com/runes/armanen.html

    An Armanen rune table I made some time ago:


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    Wikipedia says there is no historical gibor rune and Guido von List devised it in 1902.

    Yet Ms. 17, St John's College, Oxford has a letter with meaning G which to me looks like a gibor rune.

    I saw this first in the dutch (Fibula) translation of R I Page, Runes, London,British museum

    The mayjones website has a picture of it and dates it around the year 800.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egil Skallagrimsson
    There is nothing authentically Nordic or Germanic about the Armanen Runes. They are nothing but figments of Guido "von" List's fertile imagination. A knowledge of them contributes nothing to one's ability to interpret real runes or to use them in divination. They are as fictional as the Angerthas Moria.
    I will stick with the Elder Futhark because it is the original and has all the Runes which represent all aspects, the Armanen Runes are a compact version of the original. The Armanen Runes might work for some Folk but I think they are missing out on it all. Lists' visions of the Armanen Runes is a sign of a true inspired individual, and much needed for our rediscovering of our true Faith. But, the original is the original, it was etched in stone (Kylver Stone) by our ancestor(s) before X-ianity corrupted the area.

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    My opinion on this is to steer clear of anything Mr Thorsson has touched. He has been in bad health for the last few years,and again in my opinion its because he has meddled in things he dosent truely understand.

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    Runology is a difficult thing. Aside from the rune poems, themselves being somewhat Christianized, we have little to go on. Authors like Thorsson, Pennick, Aswynn and others are trying to take what little there is left and rebuild the runic system as best they can. What they come up with won't be the same thing our ancestors had, but at least they're making the attempt. Though I may not agree with everything they say, I must give them credit for their hard work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wodenschild
    My opinion on this is to steer clear of anything Mr Thorsson has touched. He has been in bad health for the last few years,and again in my opinion its because he has meddled in things he dosent truely understand.
    I agree with you on the Thorsson opinion for today, but before he was corrupted by numerous things he has published about 4-5 books that hit the nail on the head when it comes to the Runes, he knows his stuff when it comes to it. It is a sad thing to see his person take a left turn. There are a couple of threads on him in BuB.

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    The Armanen Runes

    Does anyone have some information about the Armanen Runes? All that I know is that they were first invisioned by Guido von List and they have different meanings than the Elder Futhark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volek View Post
    Does anyone have some information about the Armanen Runes? All that I know is that they were first invisioned by Guido von List and they have different meanings than the Elder Futhark.
    I'm surprised no one has gotten back to you yet on this. The Armanen Rune row (the Fuþarkh)was developed by (his followers say "revealed to") Guido von List after he was struck blind for several weeks. It is based on the Rúnatál þáttir óðins, which lists eighteen spells or "secrets" (ON rún) after relating the myth of Óðinn's self-sacrifice to gain these runes. He bases it on the Younger Fuþark largely, but does create some new runes, the one which stands out being Gifu (used widely as a Germanic fascist symbol in the Netherlands and also the symbol of SS Div. III "Das Reich"). The fylfot and trifot play very big roles for List as well, because of his trifidic-triune triad and bifidic-biune dyad philosophies regarding the magical properties of his Fuþarkh and the Runes in general.

    You can get his book "The Secrets of the Runes" at amazon.com, with an introduction by Dr. Stephen Flowers (better known by his pseudonym "Edred Thorsson") which covers List's life and philosophies in great detail.
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    I just noticed this thread myself. The Armanen runes and philosophy itself is very interesting. The Secret of the Runes has been one of the most influential books I have read to date.

    It covers the runes in a very esoteric light, giving them not just practical uses but very mystical properties which were generally disregarded in those days. List was a visionary and you will notice as such when he related the symbolism of ancient times with those of today. I especially enjoyed his work relating to the secret use of these symbols to avoid Christian persecution.

    It's certainly something I'd recommend looking into.
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    You could try Rune Might, also by Edred Thorsson, in which he discusses the differences between the Runes of List and others.

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