View Poll Results: Could you Slaughter your own meat?

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    I wouldn't do it, because, to me, it's a betrayal to the animal. Even if they're well cared for, and that's certainly not the case with factory farming, you still break a trust by killing them. I'd feel like the witch from Hansel and Gretel. "Get fat and strong so I can eat you."

    I grew up hunting and I have killed deer and squirrels, but once I realized that you could not only survive without eating animals, but thrive and lesson your chances of many degenerative and chronic diseases, I never looked back.

    If I were starving I'm sure I'd eat anything, but under normal circumstances I'd never kill another animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walhalla-Wacht View Post
    Prior to complex economic civilization, humans lived for perhaps hundreds of millenia in small groups in the wild, where natural selection eliminated people mainly according to their failure to provide food and failure to defend themselves against attackers. Consequently, the root races of that era and their archetypes - whose influences continue to the present day - were created according to distinct lifestyles.

    The oldest human lifestyles are gathering and hunting, a direct continuation from the lifestyles of apes. However, whereas human gathering techniques were not significantly different to ape (e.g. gorilla) gathering techniques, human hunting techniques were much more advanced than ape (e.g. chimpanzee) hunting techniques. Thus the hunter archetype dominated, especially outside of Africa. It is expressed in honest tribalists who prefer to use brute force to subdue their victims. (We Aryanists consider the majority of historical and modern humans to belong to this archetype, and call them Gentiles.)


    Later, some populations developed a lifestyle of herding, which was much more efficient than hunting. Accompanying changes in selective pressure created a herder archetype. It is expressed in dishonest tribalists who prefer to use deception and manipulation - including pretending to be universalists – to subdue their victims. (We consider a significant and disproportionately influential minority of historical and modern humans to belong to this archetype, and call them Jews.)

    Mutations for nobility might have occurred many times in individuals among hunter or herder populations. However, they would have been quickly terminated by natural selection each time they occurred, being maladaptive to the lifestyle of the population. Only when a new lifestyle of farming was first developed by some populations were conditions anomalously suitable for such traits to thrive and form a new farmer archetype. It is expressed in honest universalists unwilling to victimize others for their own benefit. These were the original Aryans.

    Some theories (favoured by Alfred Rosenberg) posit that degraded but discernible Aryan genetics continued for a time in the ruling classes of early historical dynasties, which would account for them being on the whole better than the masses they ruled (hence the term ‘aristocracy’), though still far from the Golden Age ideal with the exception of a few individuals. Ruling classes were generally more conscious of breeding than the masses when it came to mate selection, but this does not imply that they chose according to Aryan standards, and even if they did, this does not imply that ideal choices were always available.

    Other theories (favoured by Joseph Goebbels) posit that Aryan genetic continuities in the ancient world might have persisted among the most rural and isolated peasant farming communities, where – in contrast to urban environments - daily life was least affected by increasingly complexifying economy. But records are lacking that refer to especially noble peasant cultures, partly because records rarely focus on rural life in the first place, and partly because the vast majority of rural communities would still have been non-Aryan even if such theories were true.

    Another possibility is that Aryan individuals were most likely to be drawn towards ascetic religious orders of antiquity which both actively selected for aspects of nobility among its membership and offered an alternative environment to the degenerate mainstream civilization. Such orders tended to promote celibacy and therefore functioned as focused exit points of Aryan genetics. This does not imply that absence of such orders would have significantly increased the Aryan demographic, as it is not religion but innate nobility that causes Aryans to be far less prolific than non-Aryans.

    What makes veganism pertinent in the context of our movement is that it allows currently non-vegan anti-Zionists to see in themselves a direct equivalence of the Jewish attitude they so despise, and hence understand that such an attitude is far from limited to Jews alone. Humanism is to non-humans what Judaism is to non-Jews; each has its Goys, and both treat them cruelly beyond description. Many anti-Zionists have pointed out that external revolution must be preceded by internal revolution, in this case that overthrowing Jewish domination cannot occur until the rest of humanity first defeats what they call the ”inner Jew”. We agree, and propose that the most obvious step in defeating the ”inner Jew” is to cease having Goys of our own! It is disgraceful hypocrisy for non-Jewish humans to complain about their treatment by Jews while ignoring their own treatment of non-human animals, and such hypocrites do not deserve to defeat Zionism. It is also clear that expansion of the anti-Zionist movement into a general anti-tribalist movement cannot proceed without stressing humanism as one of the most prevalent forms of tribalism.

    With such barbaric cultural foundations (which the Gentiles, being associated with the even more primitive hunting lifestyle, had no trouble accepting), Freemasonic and Marxist platitudes attempting to feign idealism by envisioning a “brotherhood of man” sound disgusting in comparison to the Aryanist demand for an end to all enslavement, non-human as well as human. When Zionist agents are rejected not because we see through their deceptions but because we are repulsed even by what they claim to offer, only then are we truly ready for a better world.
    If you think for a second that the earliest hunter's gave the slightest care(other than an area has lots of them) about the Animal they killed for survival then you are deluded

    It was about Survival caring for the animal only care latter as a luxury!
    modern Deer management techniques(for Hunting not Farming) that were arguably founded by Hermann Wilhelm Göring are perhaps a fine example off the latter caring for the wild populations of "food animals"

    Not trying to poke you to hard with a pointy stick(although you might be seen as a food source one day ) but to look back at the Hunter gatherer is to look back at people barely surviving care was not high on the list

    Enter the "Herder" they had to care for the flock....but they still like many farmers today don't bat an eye at killing them for food
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    Quote Originally Posted by theTasmanian View Post
    If you think for a second that the earliest hunter's gave the slightest care(other than an area has lots of them) about the Animal they killed for survival then you are deluded

    It was about Survival caring for the animal only care latter as a luxury!
    modern Deer management techniques(for Hunting not Farming) that were arguably founded by Hermann Wilhelm Göring are perhaps a fine example off the latter caring for the wild populations of "food animals"

    Not trying to poke you to hard with a pointy stick(although you might be seen as a food source one day ) but to look back at the Hunter gatherer is to look back at people barely surviving care was not high on the list

    Enter the "Herder" they had to care for the flock....but they still like many farmers today don't bat an eye at killing them for food
    I don't think you're wrong, Alaric likes to nitpick and argue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walhalla-Wacht View Post
    I don't think you're wrong, Alaric likes to nitpick and argue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by casualty View Post
    I grew up hunting and I have killed deer and squirrels,
    Just out of curiosity what does squirrel taste like...?

    I ask because recently on my travels i was asked to try something with the assurance that i would like it.
    It was actually wild donkey meat and was raw,it had been left to marinate overnight in vinegar and crushed garlic.
    When it was sliced and put into the vinegar it was a deep red colour and in the morning was light pink in colour....and to my amazement tasted like tuna.

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    Squirrel has very wild taste to it if you like that sort thing.

    I like to squirrel hunt and eat a few of them from time to time, mostly I give them to a old man and woman who love to eat them. Since they are on a very low fixed income I'm sure the appreciate the meat.

    If I don't thin the squirrels out here I would be over run with them in less then a year. They eat things in my garden. Besides hunting squirrels can be very challenging with a .22 rifle, they actually hide from you on the top side of branches making it difficult to get a head shot.
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    What we call "Game" here in England.
    I was just wondering if was comaparble to any other meat like rabbit or hare.

    I understand what you are saying though,when i ate some wild boar in Bavaria it tasted wild and nothing like pork at all.

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    I did not use the term "gamey" or " game" as I did not want to confuse it with being slightly rotten, I have heard those terms applied in both ways.

    Yes, I would compare squirrel to wild Hare or Rabbit, only a stronger taste to it.

    Wild Boar can be very strong and pungent. Some jackass released a breeding population here several years back. Guess what they bred and bred and bred, now they are in the White River valley and tearing everything up. We can kill wild boar anytime we want. Most people prefer regular pork as compared to wild boar. I did shoot a wild sow once it was not so bad.
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    I prefer the wild boar myself,if its done right.The people i knew in Bavaria knew all the secrets about cooking it and preserving it in sausages etc...really good eating....when washed down with some decent German beer.

    I saw some Japanese business men when was living in Germany come on a shooting trip and when they had shot a boar they had a cook with them who gutted the animal on the spot to see if it had any truffles or wild mushrooms in its intestinal tract,how they could tell i dont know.If the search was successful they sliced it into edible lttle circles and cooked it on the spot in the woods on a portable little stove the cook had with him.
    No accounting for some peoples taste,the rest of the boar they gave away to the beaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    I did not use the term "gamey" or " game" as I did not want to confuse it with being slightly rotten, I have heard those terms applied in both ways.

    Yes, I would compare squirrel to wild Hare or Rabbit, only a stronger taste to it.

    Wild Boar can be very strong and pungent. Some jackass released a breeding population here several years back. Guess what they bred and bred and bred, now they are in the White River valley and tearing everything up. We can kill wild boar anytime we want. Most people prefer regular pork as compared to wild boar. I did shoot a wild sow once it was not so bad.

    We also have wild boar in Oklahoma.It is a cross between a domestic pig and
    a Russian Boar.Some farmer released them in the wild and they became a
    problem for farmers in no time at all.

    I have not hunted for them since I was younger but we would hide in the cattle
    feeders and about dusk,here they would come.One thing I noticed about them
    is they are really tough to bring down.I shot one with a .243 and it did not drop.

    A lot of people around that area eat them and some have gotten sick from
    some of the meat.I don't know if it was ill-prepared or what but from what I
    have heard it was pretty serious.

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