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    How Odin Became Santa Claus


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    :smt002 I've always found the 8 legged horse (with the Runes carved in his teeth) Sleipnir, fascinating. He was the derivation of the reindeers...travelling over land, sea & air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKADI
    :smt002 I've always found the 8 legged horse (with the Runes carved in his teeth) Sleipnir, fascinating. He was the derivation of the reindeers...travelling over land, sea & air.
    Me too Skadi

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    That was a very lovely article, thanks for posting this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She-Wolf
    That was a very lovely article, thanks for posting this.

    Most Welcome!!

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    Actually Saint Nicholas was Santa Clause, he was a pagan who would make toys for children of poor familys at yule and give them to the parents of the childen to give to their kids. After he died the church made him a "saint" in order to take yet another good, well known pagan in history and associate him with their lies and cultural holocaust. In other words they basically said

    "He was a damn good man, we cant let him be known through history as a evil pagan, he needs to be a christian so we will make him a staint since he is dead and after a while people will forget he was the bringer of toys for poor children at yule and think he was another good man of god"

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    Saint Nicholas is still a holiday in the Netherlands; we celebrated it just last sunday. In the days leading up to december 5th, children place their shoes in front of the fireplace before going to bed. At night, the parents put presents and/or candy in them, pretending Saint Nicholas and his negroid helpers gave them. At december 5th, the children get a whole bunch of presents. The holiday has recently come under fire from multicultural fanatics who consider it 'racist' that the white Saint Nicholas rides on a horse, while his helpers are negroids that have to walk and are all called 'Piet'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried
    Saint Nicholas is still a holiday in the Netherlands; we celebrated it just last sunday. In the days leading up to december 5th, children place their shoes in front of the fireplace before going to bed. At night, the parents put presents and/or candy in them, pretending Saint Nicholas and his negroid helpers gave them. At december 5th, the children get a whole bunch of presents. The holiday has recently come under fire from multicultural fanatics who consider it 'racist' that the white Saint Nicholas rides on a horse, while his helpers are negroids that have to walk and are all called 'Piet'.
    Isn't his name Sinter Klaas? Or something similar? I saw a television program about this one time. he has little black people help him, but they don't use real blacks, but rather whites in blackface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by folkish
    Isn't his name Sinter Klaas? Or something similar?
    Yes, it's usually spelled as Sinterklaas, which is derived from the original Sint Nicolaas.


    I saw a television program about this one time. he has little black people help him, but they don't use real blacks, but rather whites in blackface.
    Yes, the custom developed when the Netherlands were still lily white and nowadays you'll probably won't find a lot of blacks who would want to do it. It's mostly whites pretending to be black. It's probably a reference to slavery.

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    That interpretation is a little too new-agey for my taste. Here's a better one I found the other day.

    About Yule:

    Yule was midwinter festival, celebrated by the Norse/Teutonic and Celtic people as the day of merrymaking. It was commemorated with the Yule cake and giving out gifts. It was a day sacred to Odin, Thorburn and Freyr.

    Yule was the night when the Wild Hunt was at its peak. Odin rode his eight-legged horse, named Sleipnir. Odin led a band of spectral horsemen and hounds in a hunt through the night sky. On the night of Yule, children usually placed socks filled with hay outside their doors to feed Sleipnir.

    Since Yule marked the shortest day in the year (though the winter solstice now lands on December 22), the Wild Hunt is at its greatest height, because the night was at its longest duration. The Christians has adopted many of the pagan customs of Yule in the day of Christmas (December 25), such as giving out gifts to children, the decoration of the fir trees. Saint Nicholas, or Santa Claus as he was popularly known today, and his reindeers replaced Odin and Sleipnir of the Wild Hunt.
    http://www.timelessmyths.com/norse/way.html#Yule

    The Wild Hunt was a popular folklore found in Scandinavian and Germanic myth, as well in later folklore in Britain and northern European countries, which had changed over the centuries.

    The group of hunters were variously known as the Furious Host or Raging Host. The hunt usually takes part during winter, where a spectral host of horsemen riding through the stormy sky, with their ghostlike hounds. The chillingly sound of the hunting horn can be heard reverberating through the woods and meadows.

    In the Norse myths, the original leader of the hunt was the god Odin, known in Germanic myth as Wodan. Odin rode his eight-legged horse, called Sleipnir. His company of hunters were the Valkyries and the dead warriors who resided with him in Valhalla.

    The hunt begins on Winter Nights (October 31) and doesn't end May Eve (April 30) of the following year. These two nights were special, because lights go out on all Nine Worlds and the spirits and goblins are free to roam on the earth's surface. However the height of the Wild Ride falls on the night of midwinter festival, known as Yule (December 21), traditionally the shortest day of the year in Scandinavia and Germany.

    In other legends, different names were given for the leader of the Hunt, depending on the regions in Europe and periods. Some of the lead hunters were legendary and historical rulers, such as King Arthur, Charlemagne, Herla and Frederick Barbarossa.

    There is even a Welsh legend about the Wild Hunt, whose lead bunter was said to be named Gwyn ap Nudd, an otherworldly fairy ruler. Gwyn owned a pack of fairy hounds, known as cw'n annwfn. The Welsh Arthur was sometimes said to be the leader, as it is the case in the tale of Culhwch and Olwen in the Mabinogion, where they hunted the deadly wild boar, Twrch Trwyth. Gwyn was usually associated with the Welsh May Day (Calan Mai).

    According to English folklore, the Wild Huntsman was Herne, who appeared in Shakespeare's play, The Merry Wives of Winsdor. Herne was perhaps a historical figure, living at the time of Richard II of England, during the 14th century. Herne saved the king's life from the deadly antlers and killed the white stag, but he himself was dying. A wizard saved his life, by placing the stag's antlers on Herne's head, and chanting a spell. Herne discovered that he would lose his skills in hunting and tracking as payment for his survival. Herne loved hunting more than anything else in his life, was distraught, fell into depression and died. His body was discovered in his forest, near the castle of Winsdor. Since then, he reappeared with other ghostly companions, doing what he loves most - hunting.
    http://www.timelessmyths.com/norse/way.html#Hunt

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